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>It's wrong to even allow apartments or condos to be rented out, its wrong to tell property owners who they can or can not allow into their property.

mschuster91 11y ago
In case it is forbidden either by rent contracts or by law, AirBnB/Uber are, in this case knowingly, assisting parties in illegal acts and should be punished as such. When I'm e.g. a store operator and knowingly buy and later resell stolen goods, I'm punishable as part of a criminal organization. What AirBnB does in this case, aiding illegal action or in fact actively promoting illegal action, is exactly the same. The only difference between said store owner and AirBnB/Uber is that the latter companies have boatloads of dollars for lawyers and quite possibly for what we call "bakshish".
- the_ancient 11y ago
  >In case it is forbidden either by rent contracts or by law, AirBnB/Uber are, in this case knowingly, assisting parties in illegal acts and should be punished as such. Forbidden by Contract is a civil matter and AirBnB has no way of knowing this or should care at all I am 100% opposed to laws forbidding property owners from renting out rooms either short or long term In either case this is 3rd party liability which should not even be a concept in American Law. >When I'm e.g. a store operator and knowingly buy and later resell stolen goods, I'm punishable as part of a criminal organization If you can not see the difference in a person selling OTHER PEOPLES stolen property and a person selling THEIR OWN property then I really do not believe we are going to agree on much here. >The only difference between said store owner and AirBnB/Uber No the biggest difference is One company has the complete permission of the property owner to resell/rent the property, and the other does not.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    You've missed the case where a rental tennant uses AirBnB to sublet to a third party. Ann owns the property. Bob rents the property from Ann. Bob uses AirBnB to rent the property to Chris.
    - the_ancient 11y ago
      That would be the "Forbidden by contract". If Bob has a lease with Ann that forbids short term rental of a room, then Ann can persue legal action against bob including damages and eviction Only Ann has the right to do this however, not AirBnB, not the neighbors, no one else besides Ann. AirBnB has no obligation to know about, enforce, or ask about any contract or agreements Bob may have with Ann. I will add also that if Ann contacts AirBnB as the owner of the property AirBnb has an obligation to remove the listing. Often however I see less property owners complaining about AirBnB and more neighbors who simply assume the Tenant does not have permission to sublet (which I would not really call AirBnB as sublet either but...).

mschuster91 11y ago

In case it is forbidden either by rent contracts or by law, AirBnB/Uber are, in this case knowingly, assisting parties in illegal acts and should be punished as such. When I'm e.g. a store operator and knowingly buy and later resell stolen goods, I'm punishable as part of a criminal organization. What AirBnB does in this case, aiding illegal action or in fact actively promoting illegal action, is exactly the same. The only difference between said store owner and AirBnB/Uber is that the latter companies have boatloads of dollars for lawyers and quite possibly for what we call "bakshish".

the_ancient 11y ago
>In case it is forbidden either by rent contracts or by law, AirBnB/Uber are, in this case knowingly, assisting parties in illegal acts and should be punished as such. Forbidden by Contract is a civil matter and AirBnB has no way of knowing this or should care at all I am 100% opposed to laws forbidding property owners from renting out rooms either short or long term In either case this is 3rd party liability which should not even be a concept in American Law. >When I'm e.g. a store operator and knowingly buy and later resell stolen goods, I'm punishable as part of a criminal organization If you can not see the difference in a person selling OTHER PEOPLES stolen property and a person selling THEIR OWN property then I really do not believe we are going to agree on much here. >The only difference between said store owner and AirBnB/Uber No the biggest difference is One company has the complete permission of the property owner to resell/rent the property, and the other does not.
- DanBC 11y ago
  You've missed the case where a rental tennant uses AirBnB to sublet to a third party. Ann owns the property. Bob rents the property from Ann. Bob uses AirBnB to rent the property to Chris.
  - the_ancient 11y ago
    That would be the "Forbidden by contract". If Bob has a lease with Ann that forbids short term rental of a room, then Ann can persue legal action against bob including damages and eviction Only Ann has the right to do this however, not AirBnB, not the neighbors, no one else besides Ann. AirBnB has no obligation to know about, enforce, or ask about any contract or agreements Bob may have with Ann. I will add also that if Ann contacts AirBnB as the owner of the property AirBnb has an obligation to remove the listing. Often however I see less property owners complaining about AirBnB and more neighbors who simply assume the Tenant does not have permission to sublet (which I would not really call AirBnB as sublet either but...).