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You should be able to call 112 even without a SIM card, not to mention roaming.

by blfr 11y ago

mschuster91 11y ago
In Germany, not any more since 2009 due to massive amounts of abuse (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-Karte-195838.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-...). Heh, if I were to commit a bank or casino robbery, I'd just have ten or twenty guys reporting fake hostage, rape and murder cases at the same time so that the police is spread too thin to come for aid.
manarth 11y ago
You used to be able to make emergency calls in the UK without a valid SIM card, but it's been required since 2009 [1][2] (apparently to cut down on untraceable hoax calls). There is a technical difference though, between 'Roaming' and using another network in the same country. I have roaming enabled on my Vodafone account, but I can't connect to O2's UK network when Vodafone is out of range, because the other UK networks are on a list of not-permitted networks. The technical solution is called LSS - "Limited Service State" (sometimes referred to as "Emergency Roaming", and that's what allows us to 'camp' on another network to make an emergency call, but it's a different technical implementation to roaming. Here's a thought though…if someone visits the UK from abroad, and hasn't activated roaming, is their SIM card considered 'valid' enough for the sake of LSS/Emergency Roaming? [1] http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Using-giffgaff/Emergency-Roaming-in-the-UK/ta-p/5421642 http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Using-giffgaff/Emergency-Ro... (GiffGaff is a UK mobile operator, but the requirement stands for all UK operators). [2] http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2009/next-steps-to-ensure-availability-take-up-and-effective-use-of-communications-services/ http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2009/next-steps-to-ensure-ava... (Ofcom is the UK regulator for communications industries).

You should be able to call 112 even without a SIM card, not to mention roaming.

by blfr 11y ago

You should be able to call 112 even without a SIM card, not to mention roaming.

In Germany, not any more since 2009 due to massive amounts of abuse (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-Karte-195838.html http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kein-Notruf-ohne-SIM-...). Heh, if I were to commit a bank or casino robbery, I'd just have ten or twenty guys reporting fake hostage, rape and murder cases at the same time so that the police is spread too thin to come for aid.

manarth 11y ago

You used to be able to make emergency calls in the UK without a valid SIM card, but it's been required since 2009 [1][2] (apparently to cut down on untraceable hoax calls). There is a technical difference though, between 'Roaming' and using another network in the same country. I have roaming enabled on my Vodafone account, but I can't connect to O2's UK network when Vodafone is out of range, because the other UK networks are on a list of not-permitted networks. The technical solution is called LSS - "Limited Service State" (sometimes referred to as "Emergency Roaming", and that's what allows us to 'camp' on another network to make an emergency call, but it's a different technical implementation to roaming. Here's a thought though…if someone visits the UK from abroad, and hasn't activated roaming, is their SIM card considered 'valid' enough for the sake of LSS/Emergency Roaming? [1] http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Using-giffgaff/Emergency-Roaming-in-the-UK/ta-p/5421642 http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Using-giffgaff/Emergency-Ro... (GiffGaff is a UK mobile operator, but the requirement stands for all UK operators). [2] http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2009/next-steps-to-ensure-availability-take-up-and-effective-use-of-communications-services/ http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2009/next-steps-to-ensure-ava... (Ofcom is the UK regulator for communications industries).