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"Not by breaking them then demanding a pardon." You can't change the laws through the political process when disclosure of the laws is illegal. Further, Snowd
by dllthomas 11y ago
"Not by breaking them then demanding a pardon."
You can't change the laws through the political process when disclosure of the laws is illegal.
Further, Snowden is not demanding a pardon - we are demanding Snowden be pardoned.
- ikeboy 11y agoI addressed that elsewhere in the thread. The laws aren't secret, it's the court rulings that are secret. The fact that there's a secret court is known, though. So you could campaign against that court without leaking classified information. Imagine a world in which Snowden resigned, then publically pushed for unclassifying all FISA court rulings, with the obvious implication (or he could even say explicitly) that he saw things there that shouldn't be secret. He could even tell members of Congress with clearances and get them to announce it publicly in Congress, which effectively legally brings it into the public record (something like that happened with the Pentagon papers).
- dllthomas 11y ago"I addressed that elsewhere in the thread. The laws aren't secret, it's the court rulings that are secret. The fact that there's a secret court is known, though. So you could campaign against that court without leaking classified information." The text of the laws was public. But the NSA decided that those laws meant something radically different than what was written down. Per my understanding, mostly that did not have involvement from the FISA court.
- ikeboy 11y agoI think most of it did; could you give a specific program that you're thinking of? In any event, certainly much of what he published was unambiguously legal.