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That's why you make the decision to not get impaired in the first place, when deciding not to drink because there's no safe way to get home if you do. "If I dr

by tene 11y ago

That's why you make the decision to not get impaired in the first place, when deciding not to drink because there's no safe way to get home if you do. "If I drink this alcohol, I will then drink even more, followed by a nontrivial chance of murdering someone while trying to get home" should not be considered a choice that's acceptable to get wrong.

msandford 11y ago
I've gone out for a few beers with co-workers and found myself having had a few more than I meant to on a couple of occasions. It's entirely possible to end up in no shape to drive with absolutely no ill intent. To argue "but you knew when you were drinking that 3rd beer!!..." is all well and good, but the point of going out is to enjoy your friends company and have fun, not carefully monitor your alcohol consumption. The lack of taxis, buses, trains, etc in many states is a major contributor to drunk driving.
- tene 11y ago
  Huh. Looks like I misunderstood "occasionally" in the ancestor as "regularly". Yes, accidents absolutely can happen.
- arrrg 11y ago
  Just don’t drink at all when you drive? I don’t know why you think it acceptable to drink anything at all before driving. I think it’s unacceptable for me to drink anything at all when I plan on driving. That way I have never ever been in a situation where I had to drive while being drunk. It’s a quite simple heuristic …
  - msandford 11y ago
    You're right, nobody should drink ever because they might at some point in the future have to drive. Problem solved! I think it's acceptable to drink some amount before driving because I understand the physiological processes that turn alcohol into not-alcohol and therefore that at some point after I drink, I will be OK to drive. If that wasn't the case then having a drink would be a big decision, after which a person could never drive a car again. The question is proximity. If we go for a few beers and then walk next door and have dinner (without beers) then I think it's safe to drive home. An hour drinking two beers, an hour eating dinner, and there should be little to no alcohol left in your system when you drive. Fine upstanding citizens do this all the time.

by tene 11y ago

msandford 11y ago

I've gone out for a few beers with co-workers and found myself having had a few more than I meant to on a couple of occasions. It's entirely possible to end up in no shape to drive with absolutely no ill intent. To argue "but you knew when you were drinking that 3rd beer!!..." is all well and good, but the point of going out is to enjoy your friends company and have fun, not carefully monitor your alcohol consumption. The lack of taxis, buses, trains, etc in many states is a major contributor to drunk driving.

tene 11y ago
Huh. Looks like I misunderstood "occasionally" in the ancestor as "regularly". Yes, accidents absolutely can happen.
arrrg 11y ago
Just don’t drink at all when you drive? I don’t know why you think it acceptable to drink anything at all before driving. I think it’s unacceptable for me to drink anything at all when I plan on driving. That way I have never ever been in a situation where I had to drive while being drunk. It’s a quite simple heuristic …
- msandford 11y ago
  You're right, nobody should drink ever because they might at some point in the future have to drive. Problem solved! I think it's acceptable to drink some amount before driving because I understand the physiological processes that turn alcohol into not-alcohol and therefore that at some point after I drink, I will be OK to drive. If that wasn't the case then having a drink would be a big decision, after which a person could never drive a car again. The question is proximity. If we go for a few beers and then walk next door and have dinner (without beers) then I think it's safe to drive home. An hour drinking two beers, an hour eating dinner, and there should be little to no alcohol left in your system when you drive. Fine upstanding citizens do this all the time.