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> But many believe (including myself) that women face many more challenges by virtue of being women, than men do by virtue of being men. That's absolutely a po
by exstudent2 11y ago
> But many believe (including myself) that women face many more challenges by virtue of being women, than men do by virtue of being men.
That's absolutely a position you can only take because of your own privilege. Lower income men face arguably the worst discrimination available in the US since they are way over represented in our prisons.
I don't think trying to determine which of the sexes has it "worse" is in anyway a winning proposition or something anyone should be doing.
- pdabbadabba 11y agoHold the phone! I didn't say that all women have it worse than all men. I totally agree that gender is just one of many factors that gives some people unfair advantages and other unfair disadvantages. My only claim is that being a woman tends to be a disadvantage in the same way that being poor or being black tends to be a disadvantage. It obviously is the case that the advantage/disadvantage conferred by one trait (here, gender) is conditioned by other factors. So, it might be that upper-income white women are more disadvantaged relative to upper-income white men, compared to the relative disadvantage of lower-income white women with respect to lower income white men. This certainly seems like a real possibility given, as you say, the unreasonably high incarceration rate of lower-income men. (Though I'm not sure I'm ready to commit one way or the other on who has it worse. I just don't know enough about the lives of lower-income women, frankly.) Given that we were talking about the software industry, though, it seemed reasonable to relativize the conversation to, broadly speaking, middle/upper income people.
- exstudent2 11y agoYou said this statement: > men have struggles just the same Was wildly incorrect. It is not.