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Not a bit coincidental that said firm seems to be the only antivirus firm in recent memory (unless I'm mistaken) that seems to be able or willing to uncover gov

Not a bit coincidental that said firm seems to be the only antivirus firm in recent memory (unless I'm mistaken) that seems to be able or willing to uncover government-level shenanigans. No, not a bit coincidental at all. edit: And of course this http://www.wired.com/2015/06/kaspersky-finds-new-nation-state-attack-network/ http://www.wired.com/2015/06/kaspersky-finds-new-nation-stat... from two months ago. First, security breach; now, an attack on their reputation?

mc32 11y ago
It's also not coincidental at all that Kaspersky steers clear of exposing any shenanigans by Moskow. I mean, Eug himself claims Russia produces not only the best programmers but also the best exploit writers.... But surprisingly no exposés on them. Hmmm.
- pinewurst 11y ago
  That's also because Eug probably doesn't like the taste of polonium in his tea.
- mike_hearn 11y ago
  Or maybe Russia just doesn't spend as much on this stuff as western governments do. There have been exposes by western AV firms too, but not as many and not as good. If there was obviously Russian govt malware out there, it'd surface sooner or later. We've seen American, Chinese, British, French, Israeli ...... seems odd that there's no Russian yet. But then I get the impression that Russian spying is overblown anyway. They seem to mostly focus inwards these days, or focus only on the former Soviet satellite states. USA has a much more aggressive global agenda.
trhway 11y ago
>Not a bit coincidental that said firm seems to be the only antivirus firm in recent memory (unless I'm mistaken) that seems to be able or willing to uncover government-level shenanigans. like in that joke (an American says "we have freedom - we can criticize Reagan freely", and Russian responds "we have freedom too as we can criticize Reagan freely too") - Kaspersky was pretty active in uncovering StuxNet, i.e. shenanigans of the US/Israel governments :)

mc32 11y ago

It's also not coincidental at all that Kaspersky steers clear of exposing any shenanigans by Moskow. I mean, Eug himself claims Russia produces not only the best programmers but also the best exploit writers.... But surprisingly no exposés on them. Hmmm.

pinewurst 11y ago
That's also because Eug probably doesn't like the taste of polonium in his tea.
mike_hearn 11y ago
Or maybe Russia just doesn't spend as much on this stuff as western governments do. There have been exposes by western AV firms too, but not as many and not as good. If there was obviously Russian govt malware out there, it'd surface sooner or later. We've seen American, Chinese, British, French, Israeli ...... seems odd that there's no Russian yet. But then I get the impression that Russian spying is overblown anyway. They seem to mostly focus inwards these days, or focus only on the former Soviet satellite states. USA has a much more aggressive global agenda.

trhway 11y ago

>Not a bit coincidental that said firm seems to be the only antivirus firm in recent memory (unless I'm mistaken) that seems to be able or willing to uncover government-level shenanigans. like in that joke (an American says "we have freedom - we can criticize Reagan freely", and Russian responds "we have freedom too as we can criticize Reagan freely too") - Kaspersky was pretty active in uncovering StuxNet, i.e. shenanigans of the US/Israel governments :)