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Can we agree to only fight the tickets that we don't deserve?

vkat 11y ago
agreed
will_brown 11y ago
Of course. The idea is for clients to be able to input their ticket info and immediately see the legal fee of the available law firm(s) to fight the ticket. The user may choose to research the law firm(s) further or hire the law firm, but it is always the decision of the user whether or not to hire a law firm to fight their ticket.
- tertius 11y ago
  Why would you hire a firm to fight a ticket? Send a letter and you'll get it auto-reduced, except if you want to get out of the ticket.
thesis 11y ago
No. We can't agree. Accidents for instance happen, and even if you're at fault it should be your choice to get a lawyer to help reduce your costs.
IgorPartola 11y ago
I suppose. But also can we agree to raise the ridiculous speed limits and actually enforce them? 55 and 65 mph is too low and nobody drives that slow. See https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1npuah/til_that_in_2007_a_group_of_college_students/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1npuah/til_t... In my mind if you are doing 110 in a 65, sure, you get a ticket. But I distinctly remember being in a car driving through Virginia (speed limit 70 mph) in a large number of cars all following each other all doing 72-75. It was a straight bit of road, everyone was mostly in the right lane (sign said to keep right unless to pass). Out of nowhere a state trooper pulls up on the left, passes, gets in front of our car and pulls over the guy in front of us. I should mention that the car in front of us was from out of state. Now, it is possible that that guy was getting pulled over for something other than speeding, but as anyone that's driven through VA can tell you, the state troopers there are very eager to give out speeding tickets, so chances are it was for speeding. Why did that guy arbitrarily get pulled over instead of our car, or any of the two dozen around us, all doing the same speed? Probably because it was a nice car with an out of state license plate. 75 mph is not an unreasonable speed on a straight road during daytime with good visibility and weather. It's basically left to the police to determine what the real speed limit is, which seems wrong. </rant>
- hugenerd 11y ago
  Virginia is different than most states. http://jalopnik.com/what-every-driver-should-know-about-speeding-in-virgini-1669902845 http://jalopnik.com/what-every-driver-should-know-about-spee...
  - IgorPartola 11y ago
    Right. The real speed limit in VA is close to 80 mph (though you can get pulled over for doing less, presumably if "driving while black" [1]). So why aren't there signs that read "SPEED LIMIT 80"? Why is it up to the officer's discretion to decide if today it's 80, 78, 75, etc.? (I know why: federal government, funding, etc.) I am in no way against speed limits being enforced, I just don't like the idea of them being set by the officer's mood and zeal on any given day. I'd rather know what the speed limit really is rather than trying to guess it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black
    - CamperBob2 11y ago
      Federal funding is no longer tied to speed enforcement. Highway speed limits are set artificially low because it's convenient and profitable for the police. (Given that statistics do not reliably support the usual contention that higher speed limits are more dangerous, the burden of proof falls on those who would argue otherwise.) Maybe you're not speeding, but rest assured, there's some other attribute of your driving or your car's condition that will allow law enforcement to pull you over if they want. This isn't a coincidence. For better or worse, the police will tell you that they catch a lot of genuine bad actors this way. It's not that they want to be able to stop everyone... it's that they want to be able to stop anyone.
  - pge 11y ago
    Near me in VA there is a highway with two signs quite close together. One says "Speed Limit 55" and the other says (I won't have the words exactly right), "Trucks slower than 55mph must stay in right lane." The combination of signs seems to acknowledge that most traffic is exceeding the speed limit.
AUmrysh 11y ago
There are some times where your guilt and the law are ambiguous, and so who's to say that you do or don't deserve a ticket? Also, you're welcome to pay your tickets and not fight them, often the cost of hiring a lawyer is more than the fine anyway. If you're asking the kind of people who have no consideration for others, and thus break parking and traffic laws, to be considerate to others, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.

vkat 11y ago

agreed

Of course. The idea is for clients to be able to input their ticket info and immediately see the legal fee of the available law firm(s) to fight the ticket. The user may choose to research the law firm(s) further or hire the law firm, but it is always the decision of the user whether or not to hire a law firm to fight their ticket.

tertius 11y ago
Why would you hire a firm to fight a ticket? Send a letter and you'll get it auto-reduced, except if you want to get out of the ticket.

thesis 11y ago

No. We can't agree. Accidents for instance happen, and even if you're at fault it should be your choice to get a lawyer to help reduce your costs.

IgorPartola 11y ago

I suppose. But also can we agree to raise the ridiculous speed limits and actually enforce them? 55 and 65 mph is too low and nobody drives that slow. See https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1npuah/til_that_in_2007_a_group_of_college_students/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1npuah/til_t... In my mind if you are doing 110 in a 65, sure, you get a ticket. But I distinctly remember being in a car driving through Virginia (speed limit 70 mph) in a large number of cars all following each other all doing 72-75. It was a straight bit of road, everyone was mostly in the right lane (sign said to keep right unless to pass). Out of nowhere a state trooper pulls up on the left, passes, gets in front of our car and pulls over the guy in front of us. I should mention that the car in front of us was from out of state. Now, it is possible that that guy was getting pulled over for something other than speeding, but as anyone that's driven through VA can tell you, the state troopers there are very eager to give out speeding tickets, so chances are it was for speeding. Why did that guy arbitrarily get pulled over instead of our car, or any of the two dozen around us, all doing the same speed? Probably because it was a nice car with an out of state license plate. 75 mph is not an unreasonable speed on a straight road during daytime with good visibility and weather. It's basically left to the police to determine what the real speed limit is, which seems wrong. </rant>

hugenerd 11y ago
Virginia is different than most states. http://jalopnik.com/what-every-driver-should-know-about-speeding-in-virgini-1669902845 http://jalopnik.com/what-every-driver-should-know-about-spee...
- IgorPartola 11y ago
  Right. The real speed limit in VA is close to 80 mph (though you can get pulled over for doing less, presumably if "driving while black" [1]). So why aren't there signs that read "SPEED LIMIT 80"? Why is it up to the officer's discretion to decide if today it's 80, 78, 75, etc.? (I know why: federal government, funding, etc.) I am in no way against speed limits being enforced, I just don't like the idea of them being set by the officer's mood and zeal on any given day. I'd rather know what the speed limit really is rather than trying to guess it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black
  - CamperBob2 11y ago
    Federal funding is no longer tied to speed enforcement. Highway speed limits are set artificially low because it's convenient and profitable for the police. (Given that statistics do not reliably support the usual contention that higher speed limits are more dangerous, the burden of proof falls on those who would argue otherwise.) Maybe you're not speeding, but rest assured, there's some other attribute of your driving or your car's condition that will allow law enforcement to pull you over if they want. This isn't a coincidence. For better or worse, the police will tell you that they catch a lot of genuine bad actors this way. It's not that they want to be able to stop everyone... it's that they want to be able to stop anyone.
- pge 11y ago
  Near me in VA there is a highway with two signs quite close together. One says "Speed Limit 55" and the other says (I won't have the words exactly right), "Trucks slower than 55mph must stay in right lane." The combination of signs seems to acknowledge that most traffic is exceeding the speed limit.

AUmrysh 11y ago

There are some times where your guilt and the law are ambiguous, and so who's to say that you do or don't deserve a ticket? Also, you're welcome to pay your tickets and not fight them, often the cost of hiring a lawyer is more than the fine anyway. If you're asking the kind of people who have no consideration for others, and thus break parking and traffic laws, to be considerate to others, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.