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While I agree standups can have a use, I find they get pretty useless at my current place of employment. We have a small dev team where every single person is w

by Sleaker 11y ago

While I agree standups can have a use, I find they get pretty useless at my current place of employment. We have a small dev team where every single person is working on completely different portions of the software and there is little collaboration/overlap. The stand-up is pretty much just people telling what they are working on, so I'm not sure it's an effective tool.

mattbowen 11y ago
The one use I've seen there is helping people notice cross-cutting concerns that might need to be pulled out --- to do that though, you need to setup the standup in a pretty particular way, beyond just "here's what I plan to do today"
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MCRed 11y ago
I've never seen a standup be useful. Last year we built a team that was in constant communication threat the day, via slack and bug reports/statuses. We had ad-hoc conversations regularly. We all knew what was going on and what was being worked on. And yet we were forced to have a standup every morning where we tried to summarize what we were working on for non-technical "managers" who always would have the wrong impression- either something that was hard was trivial and why weren't woe working faster on it, or someone would rattle off a bunch of trivial things and they would think they were working heard. Technically competent management would be in the slack and watching the issues and not need a standup at all. A jira report is all you really need. Just make a bug status that is "blocked" if your system doesn't already have one. Then of course In all the companies I've worked at in the last 10 years that had standup, invariably there was some sort of management type (you can tell them because their job is having meetings, not getting things done) who wouldn't mind droning on for 20 minutes while standing. They don't care that they are standing. I think the standup has become some sort of cargo cult relic from the days before slack and is maintained because it lets managers who don't understand technology feel like they are making their reports report every day. Now a sprint meeting, once a week or once every 2 weeks... that's more useful.
nasalgoat 11y ago
At the very least it's an opportunity for people to interact. I'd say our daily standups produce useful communication and at least once a week solve a cross-team issue.

by Sleaker 11y ago

mattbowen 11y ago

The one use I've seen there is helping people notice cross-cutting concerns that might need to be pulled out --- to do that though, you need to setup the standup in a pretty particular way, beyond just "here's what I plan to do today"

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MCRed 11y ago

I've never seen a standup be useful. Last year we built a team that was in constant communication threat the day, via slack and bug reports/statuses. We had ad-hoc conversations regularly. We all knew what was going on and what was being worked on. And yet we were forced to have a standup every morning where we tried to summarize what we were working on for non-technical "managers" who always would have the wrong impression- either something that was hard was trivial and why weren't woe working faster on it, or someone would rattle off a bunch of trivial things and they would think they were working heard. Technically competent management would be in the slack and watching the issues and not need a standup at all. A jira report is all you really need. Just make a bug status that is "blocked" if your system doesn't already have one. Then of course In all the companies I've worked at in the last 10 years that had standup, invariably there was some sort of management type (you can tell them because their job is having meetings, not getting things done) who wouldn't mind droning on for 20 minutes while standing. They don't care that they are standing. I think the standup has become some sort of cargo cult relic from the days before slack and is maintained because it lets managers who don't understand technology feel like they are making their reports report every day. Now a sprint meeting, once a week or once every 2 weeks... that's more useful.

nasalgoat 11y ago

At the very least it's an opportunity for people to interact. I'd say our daily standups produce useful communication and at least once a week solve a cross-team issue.