I think it's just a level of self sufficiency as well as what other projects you may know of that would color that expectation. A former co-worker of mine had a

I think it's just a level of self sufficiency as well as what other projects you may know of that would color that expectation. A former co-worker of mine had a side project that was a farm in the middle of nowhere. It was off the grid. Meaning zero electricity from outside. It was generating power via solar. It had internet (he has children, so netflix when it got late). Granted he didn't grow all of his own food, but he made excursions out every weekend so that wouldn't have been feasible to do either. But should he have built his own solar panels and mined for his own rare earths to build batteries? Most of the time living off-grid is some everyday level of self reliance most of first world is not at.