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> Without bail — and the quick guilty pleas > that it produces — courts would come under > significant strain. "The system would shut > down," Goldb
by rectang 11y ago
> Without bail — and the quick guilty pleas
> that it produces — courts would come under
> significant strain. "The system would shut
> down," Goldberg says.
It doesn't cost much to bail out some poor people. Seems like a great opportunity to screw with an unjust system!
- ma2rten 11y agoHow much does it cost? I think it is at least 10k for the least serious crimes.
- justizin 11y agoIt easily goes into the hundreds of thousands, and when people with mental illness end up in jail, off their meds, they often stack up all sorts of charges for relatively minor behavior that sounds ominous on paper as "assault on a penal officer" or somesuch. Now you can get bail in the millions, and prejudice from every corner of the system. It's no longer about a straw, it's about a guard who says you punched them when in face five people were holding you and you had a spasm or something.
- rectang 11y agoYou don't need to bail out everybody for this hack to work. Just bailing out those with bail under N dollars should be enough to DOS the courts.
- aidenn0 11y agoTFA mentioned several cases where it was under $2k.
- crpatino 11y agoNo, that's exactly the opposite. What the quote means is that bails allows courts to process much more arrests than reasonably possible, and that also that guilty pleas mask the fact that the grounds for most of those fast forward arrest occurred under shaky grounds at best. What you want to do is to pay poor people to sit in jail for as long as it takes to exercise their right for a fair trail. Once judges and other court personnel is forced to hear 18 hrs of bullshit accusations for every hour of real cases, they will begin to look their cozy cuff-happy bedfellows in a new light.
- frankus 11y agoWhat the article is saying is that the threat of bail (in an amount that a defendant can't pay) makes plea deals more likely, which currently keeps actual trials from clogging up the court system. If someone were to post bail for them they could still go to trial without sitting in jail in the meantime.
- crpatino 11y agoOk, I see. Stand corrected.
- aidenn0 11y agoYou need a license to be a bail bondsman, though TFA said that NYC recently passed a law to allow non-profits to post bail without a license.