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Sounds like we're moving in the direction of Russia where every driver has a cam because the cops literally don't care and it's the only way to prove that someo

Sounds like we're moving in the direction of Russia where every driver has a cam because the cops literally don't care and it's the only way to prove that someone didn't stop mid road and went into reverse into you.

pavel_lishin 11y ago
I was under the impression that it was to fight insurance fraud.
- mikestew 11y ago
  Fighting insurance fraud is exactly what the previous commenter was referring to, I'm sure. Joe Citizen stops, backs into you, then claims you rear-ended him. Or a pedestrian throws himself on your hood, claims you ran over him. There are montages floating around (too lazy to look, sorry) that demonstrate this. It's worth searching for, as they're pretty hilarious yet sad at the same time.
  - pavel_lishin 11y ago
    Right, but my point was that it has very little to do with cops. Unless they witnessed the 'accident', what exactly would you expect from them without video footage of your own?
    - mikestew 11y ago
      Until the OP chimes in, I assume that "cops don't give a shit" means you can call them, but even if they show up they won't file a report or do anything useful. I'm with you, it was at best an orthogonal comment, I just thought perhaps you were not informed of why so many cars in Russia have dash cams. As to "without video footage of (my) own", in many U. S. states you are obligated by law to call a cop if the damage is over $XXX. They come out, file a report with details of the circumstances. Does it do any good? Meh, probably not. The last time a person ran into me, I called the plods and he handed us both the paperwork to fill out, stating that if he (the cop) did it, he'd have to issue a ticket. Umm, yeah, issuing a ticket to the incompetent driver who ran into me might be a good idea.
marincounty 11y ago
I caved in a year ago and boought two $15.00 dash cams off Amazon. I haven't been pulled over for No Reason since I got the cam. (I bought two because they were cheap, and keep one behind my seat in case the device fails.) I thought about buying Gopro, but figured for my needs the price was too high, and a potential thief might break a window to get to the expensive cam? I have been pulled over for no reason so many times, I wish they had these cheap cams when I turned 16. I have never understood bail. Why don't they make it coincide with a person's yearly income? While I'm at it, why aren't traffic infractions tied to income? I gringe when I hear about $500 traffic tickets, or $280 for jaywalking? A wealthy person gets a ticket--he tells his wife over diner. A poor person gets a ticket, it can ruin their living situation? Never seemed fair?
- function_seven 11y ago
  Can you link to those cams and tell me how good they are? I just did a search and was surprised how many < $30 cams are available now.
  - codecamper 11y ago
    Start a new thread, this one is about the US criminal justice system.
  - deleted 11y ago
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- gizmo686 11y ago
  Making bail/tickets linear still places a disproportionate burden on the poor. If a poor person looses a week of income, it could mean struggling to put put food on the table until the next paycheck. If a middle class person looses a week of income, they are much more likely to have liquid savings they could dip into.
  - mc32 11y ago
    It's better than what we currently have which is just a flat fee. On the other hand, you don't want to make it free for the unemployed --like students, etc.

pavel_lishin 11y ago

I was under the impression that it was to fight insurance fraud.

mikestew 11y ago
Fighting insurance fraud is exactly what the previous commenter was referring to, I'm sure. Joe Citizen stops, backs into you, then claims you rear-ended him. Or a pedestrian throws himself on your hood, claims you ran over him. There are montages floating around (too lazy to look, sorry) that demonstrate this. It's worth searching for, as they're pretty hilarious yet sad at the same time.
- pavel_lishin 11y ago
  Right, but my point was that it has very little to do with cops. Unless they witnessed the 'accident', what exactly would you expect from them without video footage of your own?
  - mikestew 11y ago
    Until the OP chimes in, I assume that "cops don't give a shit" means you can call them, but even if they show up they won't file a report or do anything useful. I'm with you, it was at best an orthogonal comment, I just thought perhaps you were not informed of why so many cars in Russia have dash cams. As to "without video footage of (my) own", in many U. S. states you are obligated by law to call a cop if the damage is over $XXX. They come out, file a report with details of the circumstances. Does it do any good? Meh, probably not. The last time a person ran into me, I called the plods and he handed us both the paperwork to fill out, stating that if he (the cop) did it, he'd have to issue a ticket. Umm, yeah, issuing a ticket to the incompetent driver who ran into me might be a good idea.

marincounty 11y ago

I caved in a year ago and boought two $15.00 dash cams off Amazon. I haven't been pulled over for No Reason since I got the cam. (I bought two because they were cheap, and keep one behind my seat in case the device fails.) I thought about buying Gopro, but figured for my needs the price was too high, and a potential thief might break a window to get to the expensive cam? I have been pulled over for no reason so many times, I wish they had these cheap cams when I turned 16. I have never understood bail. Why don't they make it coincide with a person's yearly income? While I'm at it, why aren't traffic infractions tied to income? I gringe when I hear about $500 traffic tickets, or $280 for jaywalking? A wealthy person gets a ticket--he tells his wife over diner. A poor person gets a ticket, it can ruin their living situation? Never seemed fair?

function_seven 11y ago
Can you link to those cams and tell me how good they are? I just did a search and was surprised how many < $30 cams are available now.
- codecamper 11y ago
  Start a new thread, this one is about the US criminal justice system.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
gizmo686 11y ago
Making bail/tickets linear still places a disproportionate burden on the poor. If a poor person looses a week of income, it could mean struggling to put put food on the table until the next paycheck. If a middle class person looses a week of income, they are much more likely to have liquid savings they could dip into.
- mc32 11y ago
  It's better than what we currently have which is just a flat fee. On the other hand, you don't want to make it free for the unemployed --like students, etc.