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Linux is totally ok for a desktop, I would say much better than anything else! You have several desktop environments you can choose from and you can customize i

Linux is totally ok for a desktop, I would say much better than anything else! You have several desktop environments you can choose from and you can customize it to make it work exactly like you want it to. Once everything setup to your liking, the configuration can be easily copied to any other system because it is just files in your $HOME folder. If you are a Hacker, you will be overwhelmed by the great amount of development tools that are much easier to handle than on any other system. There are very few reasons nowadays not to use Linux.

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tfigment 11y ago
Genuine question: What are the equivalent easy to use development tools that map to sysinternals tools such as procexp, procmon, tcpview, ....? If it is just lsof, ps, top, netstat then I'm seriously missing some thing. It is one of my personal pain points with linux.
- babuskov 11y ago
  Maybe if you elaborate what exact functionality you are missing. Look at "sar" and "sag" for example.
- blackbeard 11y ago
  process explorer: htop, vmstat, iostat. procmon: strace. tcpview: netstat, wireshark. They're all pretty easy to use.
  - lorenzhs 11y ago
    also iftop and iotop to monitor network and file system usage by application
    - blackbeard 11y ago
      Didn't know about iftop; thanks for the suggestion.
- jwr 11y ago
  I would be quite interested to learn what it is you would like to see that lsof does not show? (yes, this is a genuine question, I do not know Windows tools)
woah 11y ago
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krmmalik 11y ago
I moved to Linux Mint for the very reason that I saw many comments in places like this. But I have to say, I have been seriously considering moving back. I love the stability and reliability of Linux. And By God it's fast, but the user experience is not the least bit as polished as people keep making it out to be. It's not intuitive, and half the things aren't as easy as people say they are. I lost a whole afternoon trying to get Photoshop to work through WINE and in the end resorted to setting up a virtual machine and installing windows. Less than ideal. I like Linux for what it is, but lack of compatibility with major apps is a major deal breaker. I've not been able to get a single windows app to work through WINE and I've tried a fair few. I would be less inclined to go back if more major app makers were willing to create native Linux apps. Take Quip or 1Password for example. No native Linux support.
- tomswartz07 11y ago
  I understand your frustration, I've been there too. However, I think it's very important to understand, and go into it with the mindset as follows: You're not going to have the same programs. You'll have similar programs and very good alternatives (Photoshop/GIMP, 1Password/KeePass, etc.) Once I realized that I probably shouldn't try to shoehorn a program written for only a specific OS into what I was doing, I found the experience much better. Sure, some of the alternatives aren't as good. If you really need them, then you should re-evaulate why you're switiching.
  - RaleyField 11y ago
    > very good alternatives GIMP is to Photoshop what mspaint is to GIMP.
    - tomswartz07 11y ago
      > You'll have similar programs... Never said that one was better than the other, just that there are alternatives. :) Again, if one really, really needs Photoshop, then they need to evaluate how much they want to change Operating Systems.
arbitrage 11y ago
> You have several desktop environments you can choose from and you can customize it to make it work exactly like you want it to. This is not actually a selling point to a lot of people. Some people just want a device to work, and not have to worry about it. > There are very few reasons nowadays not to use Linux. One should use the right tool for the right job. Sometimes, that's just not Linux.
- linkydinkandyou 11y ago
  Exactly! Why do the Linux people try to "take over" every Windows thread? The Windows folks don't barge into every Linux thread. Windows 10 is excellent. We moved our all-mac company (~20 developers) off Macs and onto Windows over the past year, because Apple no longer supports the high end. We do GPGPU programming, and you can't plug a high end NVIDIA card into a MacPro. (The Mac Apologists will say you can, but you can't -- not in any useful performant reliable way.)
  - mikeash 11y ago
    It's hardly "barg[ing] into" when somebody explicitly asks about alternatives. And yes, they said they wouldn't consider Linux, but that does mean they're the ones who brought it up!
fixermark 11y ago
If you are a Hacker, there are very few reasons nowadays not to have access to Linux. I run my development profile as a VM on my Windows machine. It's nice to have the distro packages to pull in any esoteric tool I need to solve problems. But I play too many videogames to run it as my primary machine.
saiya-jin 11y ago
games, games, games, just 3 reasons, very good for quite a few. and let's not forget the whole corporate global space, where Exchange+Office suite rules unchallenged. whenever i try to see some excel in what gmail has for previews, i cry and run away (and those are simple excels out there, without any complex scripts for example).

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tfigment 11y ago

Genuine question: What are the equivalent easy to use development tools that map to sysinternals tools such as procexp, procmon, tcpview, ....? If it is just lsof, ps, top, netstat then I'm seriously missing some thing. It is one of my personal pain points with linux.

babuskov 11y ago
Maybe if you elaborate what exact functionality you are missing. Look at "sar" and "sag" for example.
blackbeard 11y ago
process explorer: htop, vmstat, iostat. procmon: strace. tcpview: netstat, wireshark. They're all pretty easy to use.
- lorenzhs 11y ago
  also iftop and iotop to monitor network and file system usage by application
  - blackbeard 11y ago
    Didn't know about iftop; thanks for the suggestion.
jwr 11y ago
I would be quite interested to learn what it is you would like to see that lsof does not show? (yes, this is a genuine question, I do not know Windows tools)

woah 11y ago

Off topic

krmmalik 11y ago

I moved to Linux Mint for the very reason that I saw many comments in places like this. But I have to say, I have been seriously considering moving back. I love the stability and reliability of Linux. And By God it's fast, but the user experience is not the least bit as polished as people keep making it out to be. It's not intuitive, and half the things aren't as easy as people say they are. I lost a whole afternoon trying to get Photoshop to work through WINE and in the end resorted to setting up a virtual machine and installing windows. Less than ideal. I like Linux for what it is, but lack of compatibility with major apps is a major deal breaker. I've not been able to get a single windows app to work through WINE and I've tried a fair few. I would be less inclined to go back if more major app makers were willing to create native Linux apps. Take Quip or 1Password for example. No native Linux support.

tomswartz07 11y ago
I understand your frustration, I've been there too. However, I think it's very important to understand, and go into it with the mindset as follows: You're not going to have the same programs. You'll have similar programs and very good alternatives (Photoshop/GIMP, 1Password/KeePass, etc.) Once I realized that I probably shouldn't try to shoehorn a program written for only a specific OS into what I was doing, I found the experience much better. Sure, some of the alternatives aren't as good. If you really need them, then you should re-evaulate why you're switiching.
- RaleyField 11y ago
  > very good alternatives GIMP is to Photoshop what mspaint is to GIMP.
  - tomswartz07 11y ago
    > You'll have similar programs... Never said that one was better than the other, just that there are alternatives. :) Again, if one really, really needs Photoshop, then they need to evaluate how much they want to change Operating Systems.

arbitrage 11y ago

> You have several desktop environments you can choose from and you can customize it to make it work exactly like you want it to. This is not actually a selling point to a lot of people. Some people just want a device to work, and not have to worry about it. > There are very few reasons nowadays not to use Linux. One should use the right tool for the right job. Sometimes, that's just not Linux.

linkydinkandyou 11y ago
Exactly! Why do the Linux people try to "take over" every Windows thread? The Windows folks don't barge into every Linux thread. Windows 10 is excellent. We moved our all-mac company (~20 developers) off Macs and onto Windows over the past year, because Apple no longer supports the high end. We do GPGPU programming, and you can't plug a high end NVIDIA card into a MacPro. (The Mac Apologists will say you can, but you can't -- not in any useful performant reliable way.)
- mikeash 11y ago
  It's hardly "barg[ing] into" when somebody explicitly asks about alternatives. And yes, they said they wouldn't consider Linux, but that does mean they're the ones who brought it up!

fixermark 11y ago

If you are a Hacker, there are very few reasons nowadays not to have access to Linux. I run my development profile as a VM on my Windows machine. It's nice to have the distro packages to pull in any esoteric tool I need to solve problems. But I play too many videogames to run it as my primary machine.

saiya-jin 11y ago

games, games, games, just 3 reasons, very good for quite a few. and let's not forget the whole corporate global space, where Exchange+Office suite rules unchallenged. whenever i try to see some excel in what gmail has for previews, i cry and run away (and those are simple excels out there, without any complex scripts for example).