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You're bieng more of a bully than the author's harasser. Look at your language, you want to crucify people because they didn't destroy somebody's reputation an

by hoopd 11y ago

You're bieng more of a bully than the author's harasser. Look at your language, you want to crucify people because they didn't destroy somebody's reputation and possibly their entire career when a member of your group asked them to? That's scary.

Asbostos 11y ago
Are you saying that people whose career or reputation depends on not harassing women should be allowed to get away with harassing women more than others? A great example of the right way to do things is how the BBC kicked out their biggest star, Jeremy Clarkson, due to a single case of assault when the victim didn't even make a complaint. It shows that they don't give license to abuse people to the more valuable employees.
- DanBC 11y ago
  In any other industry Clarkson would have been fired for gross misconduct. The BBC did not fire Clarkson. They declined to renew his contract. The BBC have said that they expect to see Clarkson on the BBC again. He was booked to appear on a panel show, but chose to pull out after public backlash. The way the BBC handled Clarkson - a drunk bully - was terrible.
- hoopd 11y ago
  > Are you saying that people whose career or reputation depends on not harassing women should be allowed to get away with harassing women more than others? Not at all. I'm saying the only evidence provided from the author is a flirtatious text where the "harasser" was attempting to engage in consentual intercourse with another adult. Was it inappropriate? Apparently, but reaching out for human contact is a normal and healthy part of life. The person I was responding to was fantasizing about destroying this person's livelihood and the livelihoods of others who refused to take part in this destruction. One person fantasized about a natural and healthy human activity and the other fantasized about crucifiction. There may have been some vague power dynamics in the (alleged) harassment but that doesn't measure up to active and aggressive threats. The Clarkson sacking was the result of a police investigation and regardless of whether the ass-kicking was deserved or not there was a physical assault with evidence that it happened. Why we would even compare a woman having to say no in a clear and adult way to a man being physically assaulted is beyond me.

by hoopd 11y ago

Asbostos 11y ago

Are you saying that people whose career or reputation depends on not harassing women should be allowed to get away with harassing women more than others? A great example of the right way to do things is how the BBC kicked out their biggest star, Jeremy Clarkson, due to a single case of assault when the victim didn't even make a complaint. It shows that they don't give license to abuse people to the more valuable employees.

DanBC 11y ago
In any other industry Clarkson would have been fired for gross misconduct. The BBC did not fire Clarkson. They declined to renew his contract. The BBC have said that they expect to see Clarkson on the BBC again. He was booked to appear on a panel show, but chose to pull out after public backlash. The way the BBC handled Clarkson - a drunk bully - was terrible.
hoopd 11y ago
> Are you saying that people whose career or reputation depends on not harassing women should be allowed to get away with harassing women more than others? Not at all. I'm saying the only evidence provided from the author is a flirtatious text where the "harasser" was attempting to engage in consentual intercourse with another adult. Was it inappropriate? Apparently, but reaching out for human contact is a normal and healthy part of life. The person I was responding to was fantasizing about destroying this person's livelihood and the livelihoods of others who refused to take part in this destruction. One person fantasized about a natural and healthy human activity and the other fantasized about crucifiction. There may have been some vague power dynamics in the (alleged) harassment but that doesn't measure up to active and aggressive threats. The Clarkson sacking was the result of a police investigation and regardless of whether the ass-kicking was deserved or not there was a physical assault with evidence that it happened. Why we would even compare a woman having to say no in a clear and adult way to a man being physically assaulted is beyond me.