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I have no problem with he said/she said, because I am willing to take a woman at her word when she says "he harassed me". On the extremely rare occasions I've

by Frondo 11y ago

I have no problem with he said/she said, because I am willing to take a woman at her word when she says "he harassed me". On the extremely rare occasions I've heard of men complaining of being raped by women, I don't think I've ever heard anyone dismissing his complaint as she said/he said.

scarmig 11y ago
I'm a male that's been raped before, and I've told maybe 5 people. And the reaction was very supportive from all but one of them. Interestingly enough, the four supportive point of views were from women, and the one "oh you're just lying to try and find an excuse for cheating" was from a man. YMMV
coldtea 11y ago
>I have no problem with he said/she said, because I am willing to take a woman at her word when she says "he harassed me". Yeah, let's do away with the burden of proof, presumption of innocence, and all those antiquated things. >On the extremely rare occasions I've heard of men complaining of being raped by women, I don't think I've ever heard anyone dismissing his complaint as she said/he said. Even if that's was the case (that nobody dismissed his complaint as she said/he said), that's still no argument. They should have dismissed it in both cases, unless proper proof was given. http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/12/student-wrongfully-expelled-for-rape-tri http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/12/student-wrongfully-expelle...
bro-stick 11y ago
Men and women both make up crazy stories all the time to attack other people. It's incontraverible evidence that makes it clear one side isn't lying. It seems like she has good evidence so it's not s/he said situation anyhow.
- Frondo 11y ago
  In the US, we have a long history of dismissing women's complaints about harassment or sexual assault with "she asked for it" or "she didn't fight back hard enough" or "she's making it up". I'm simply taking the radical step of actually taking women at their word when they say these things, instead of carrying on with the tradition of assuming the woman's lying or embellishing a story.
Asbostos 11y ago
Is this like the Muslim method of a woman's word being worth a fraction of a man's? Perhaps if 4 men disagree with one woman, then you'll accept that the men are right because their word is worth less? That's grossly unjust.

by Frondo 11y ago

scarmig 11y ago

I'm a male that's been raped before, and I've told maybe 5 people. And the reaction was very supportive from all but one of them. Interestingly enough, the four supportive point of views were from women, and the one "oh you're just lying to try and find an excuse for cheating" was from a man. YMMV

coldtea 11y ago

>I have no problem with he said/she said, because I am willing to take a woman at her word when she says "he harassed me". Yeah, let's do away with the burden of proof, presumption of innocence, and all those antiquated things. >On the extremely rare occasions I've heard of men complaining of being raped by women, I don't think I've ever heard anyone dismissing his complaint as she said/he said. Even if that's was the case (that nobody dismissed his complaint as she said/he said), that's still no argument. They should have dismissed it in both cases, unless proper proof was given. http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/12/student-wrongfully-expelled-for-rape-tri http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/12/student-wrongfully-expelle...

bro-stick 11y ago

Men and women both make up crazy stories all the time to attack other people. It's incontraverible evidence that makes it clear one side isn't lying. It seems like she has good evidence so it's not s/he said situation anyhow.

Frondo 11y ago
In the US, we have a long history of dismissing women's complaints about harassment or sexual assault with "she asked for it" or "she didn't fight back hard enough" or "she's making it up". I'm simply taking the radical step of actually taking women at their word when they say these things, instead of carrying on with the tradition of assuming the woman's lying or embellishing a story.

Asbostos 11y ago

Is this like the Muslim method of a woman's word being worth a fraction of a man's? Perhaps if 4 men disagree with one woman, then you'll accept that the men are right because their word is worth less? That's grossly unjust.