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I went to art school and was a designer for a short stint, where Macs completely ruled supreme. I learned and completely grocked the living hell out of OS7, 8 a

by city41 17y ago

I went to art school and was a designer for a short stint, where Macs completely ruled supreme. I learned and completely grocked the living hell out of OS7, 8 and 8.5. Despite their incredibly archaic architecture under the hood, they are still probably my favorite operating system. Interface wise, OSX has actually been a step back in a lot of ways.

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unalone 17y ago
I'm in art school right now, and OS X was my first Mac. Would you mind telling me what you liked about older OS's that OS X doesn't have? I probably missed a generation of great ideas and I'd like to know what they were.
- pwpwp 17y ago
  See for example http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2003/04/finder.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2003/04/finder.ars While OS X may be prettier than earlier MacOSes, conceptually, it's much closer to Windows than to the MacOS spirit.
lsb 17y ago
How so?
ax0n 17y ago
Really? The menu bar at the top is basically the same, albeit squishier than before. They added a dock, and a ton of chrome. I'm not seeing how anything was "a step back" by any means. The only irk I really have is lack of keyboard navigation on dialog boxen. I should be able to hit tab or arrow keys or something to switch between buttons on dialogs (example: the shutdown menu) - but that's always been the case, it's nothing new. Care to elaborate, or even take to task some of my assertions?
- dchest 17y ago
  Control+F7 (or System Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts > Full Keyboard Access: All Controls). Then use Tab and Shift+Tab. Also, for shutdown dialog (and other) navigation is not needed at all: Return = default button (Shut Down), Space = alternate (focused) button (Cancel).
  - ax0n 17y ago
    That tip on full keyboard access is pure win. If I could up-mod this comment a dozen times, I would! Many thanks! This has pestered me for about a decade now.

by city41 17y ago

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unalone 17y ago

I'm in art school right now, and OS X was my first Mac. Would you mind telling me what you liked about older OS's that OS X doesn't have? I probably missed a generation of great ideas and I'd like to know what they were.

pwpwp 17y ago
See for example http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2003/04/finder.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2003/04/finder.ars While OS X may be prettier than earlier MacOSes, conceptually, it's much closer to Windows than to the MacOS spirit.

lsb 17y ago

How so?

ax0n 17y ago

Really? The menu bar at the top is basically the same, albeit squishier than before. They added a dock, and a ton of chrome. I'm not seeing how anything was "a step back" by any means. The only irk I really have is lack of keyboard navigation on dialog boxen. I should be able to hit tab or arrow keys or something to switch between buttons on dialogs (example: the shutdown menu) - but that's always been the case, it's nothing new. Care to elaborate, or even take to task some of my assertions?

dchest 17y ago
Control+F7 (or System Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts > Full Keyboard Access: All Controls). Then use Tab and Shift+Tab. Also, for shutdown dialog (and other) navigation is not needed at all: Return = default button (Shut Down), Space = alternate (focused) button (Cancel).
- ax0n 17y ago
  That tip on full keyboard access is pure win. If I could up-mod this comment a dozen times, I would! Many thanks! This has pestered me for about a decade now.