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Yeah, we're still figuring out the best way to handle collecting the units at the end of life, but there's already places like this that we can send them to and

Yeah, we're still figuring out the best way to handle collecting the units at the end of life, but there's already places like this that we can send them to and keep it from turning into e-waste: http://www.kinsbursky.com/ http://www.kinsbursky.com/

sandworm101 11y ago
You might want to add language re battery orientation. It looks like your device doesn't care about up and down. That's a big deal for car people. They pay extra for a 'dry' battery that can be mounted in weird places and angles. And mention venting or lack thereof. That's another sticking point for people shopping for aftermarket batteries. Also, vibration testing if you have done any. Custom cars and offroad machines shake. Nobody wants a battery with internals that look like they might break loose. If you really want to sell a premium battery, create a motorcycle model. Sportbike owners are really into weight reductions and eat through batteries. It might as simple as a smaller plastic shell.
- bri3d 11y ago
  Sportbike owners are already buying cheap LiFePO4 batteries sans capacitors in droves, so there'd have to be some kind of strong differentiation for Ohm.
  - aidenn0 11y ago
    Do LiFePO4 provide enough cranking amps for a sportbike?
    - bri3d 11y ago
      Yes, absolutely. There are hundreds of LiFePO4 sportbike, ATV, and race car batteries on the market already (for example, http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14L2-BS12.html http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14L2-BS... ). I've also used one to run my Elise (2ZZ 1.8L 4-cylinder) for a few years now without issue. The three major issues I've heard about are are longevity, price, and reserve capacity. Cold weather is a bit of an issue, but strangely it's actually made better by more load as the battery's internal resistance eventually heats it up to the point that it works fine. I really don't get this product yet. Unless the supercapacitor provides an incredible enhancement in longevity (maybe it does, but my understanding and experience is that temperature and poor manufacturing are the main enemies to these batteries, not instantaneous load), I'm not sold on buying one instead of one of the inexpensive existing alternatives.
      - aidenn0 11y ago
        Wow, 210 CCA from a LiFePO, I had no idea. The supercaps provide a huge enhancement in longevity, since the maximum current draw from the battery is lower. This can even mean a difference in manufacturing for the battery in some cases, as there are design tradeoffs between peak current draw and lifetime. It's also potentially lower weight and lower cost, since you won't need as large of a battery (EDLCs aren't cheap though, so there is a limit).
    - modoc 11y ago
      I run these on three Ducatis, including my track bike - http://earthxmotorsports.com http://earthxmotorsports.com Amazing batteries!! Super light, and super powerful. All the bikes start up faster/easier even after sitting all winter.
- TTPrograms 11y ago
  I wonder if an argument could be made for audio systems. Very "peaky" power draws from sub systems already have some people putting caps in parallel with their batteries (to mixed success).

sandworm101 11y ago

You might want to add language re battery orientation. It looks like your device doesn't care about up and down. That's a big deal for car people. They pay extra for a 'dry' battery that can be mounted in weird places and angles. And mention venting or lack thereof. That's another sticking point for people shopping for aftermarket batteries. Also, vibration testing if you have done any. Custom cars and offroad machines shake. Nobody wants a battery with internals that look like they might break loose. If you really want to sell a premium battery, create a motorcycle model. Sportbike owners are really into weight reductions and eat through batteries. It might as simple as a smaller plastic shell.

bri3d 11y ago
Sportbike owners are already buying cheap LiFePO4 batteries sans capacitors in droves, so there'd have to be some kind of strong differentiation for Ohm.
- aidenn0 11y ago
  Do LiFePO4 provide enough cranking amps for a sportbike?
  - bri3d 11y ago
    Yes, absolutely. There are hundreds of LiFePO4 sportbike, ATV, and race car batteries on the market already (for example, http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14L2-BS12.html http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14L2-BS... ). I've also used one to run my Elise (2ZZ 1.8L 4-cylinder) for a few years now without issue. The three major issues I've heard about are are longevity, price, and reserve capacity. Cold weather is a bit of an issue, but strangely it's actually made better by more load as the battery's internal resistance eventually heats it up to the point that it works fine. I really don't get this product yet. Unless the supercapacitor provides an incredible enhancement in longevity (maybe it does, but my understanding and experience is that temperature and poor manufacturing are the main enemies to these batteries, not instantaneous load), I'm not sold on buying one instead of one of the inexpensive existing alternatives.
    - aidenn0 11y ago
      Wow, 210 CCA from a LiFePO, I had no idea. The supercaps provide a huge enhancement in longevity, since the maximum current draw from the battery is lower. This can even mean a difference in manufacturing for the battery in some cases, as there are design tradeoffs between peak current draw and lifetime. It's also potentially lower weight and lower cost, since you won't need as large of a battery (EDLCs aren't cheap though, so there is a limit).
  - modoc 11y ago
    I run these on three Ducatis, including my track bike - http://earthxmotorsports.com http://earthxmotorsports.com Amazing batteries!! Super light, and super powerful. All the bikes start up faster/easier even after sitting all winter.
TTPrograms 11y ago
I wonder if an argument could be made for audio systems. Very "peaky" power draws from sub systems already have some people putting caps in parallel with their batteries (to mixed success).