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Glad to see they finally gave some love to running docker on osx, as it is definitely a pain point for a lot of people. Hopefully Docker Toolbox is what we've b

by reustle 11y ago

Glad to see they finally gave some love to running docker on osx, as it is definitely a pain point for a lot of people. Hopefully Docker Toolbox is what we've been waiting for.

bkeroack 11y ago
I imagine it's still using virtualization under the hood, so it's no more "real" Docker than spinning up a Vagrant ubuntu box and running containers there.
SloopJon 11y ago
I started looking at Docker during vacation last week. I had a slightly outdated copy of Boot2Docker that didn't play well with VirtualBox 5.0. With limited bandwidth, I downloaded the docker-machine executable rather than the whole Boot2Docker package. Worked fine, and I was able to set up a variety of containers. When I got back to work this week, I started setting some of this up on my work Mac, and found a release candidate for the Docker Toolbox. It looks like it's the docker, docker-machine, and docker-compose executables plus the Kitematic GUI (haven't tried that yet). Looks like a decent package. Grumpy, off-topic digression after a week with limited Internet: please supply offline docs (Unreal), don't put a git clone command in the configure script to build them (Rust), don't require an external crate in a tutorial (random number generator for Rust), don't put a link to a CDN in your offline docs (Leap Motion SDK), don't require activation after a 2 GB download (Unity Personal). I did luck out and find a WebSocket library in the Go tutorial, which I used to grab JSON from the Leap to load into MongoDB (in a Docker container). Grumpy, mostly on-topic digression: docker-compose doesn't work on my work Mac, and no one seems to know how to fix it: https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/271 https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/271 Haven't yet managed to rebuild it locally as suggested. Edit: some observations after installing Docker Toolbox. Kitematic is an Electron app (complete with a Toggle DevTools menu that covers the window with a web dev console). It doesn't tell you what it's doing, but docker-machine shows that it created a machine named default using the VirtualBox driver with the default settings. Opening the Docker Quickstart Terminal stopped (and deleted?) the machine that Kitematic made and started a new one with the same name and settings. I think I'd be just as happy with only the docker and docker-machine executables.
- jmorgan 11y ago
  Thanks for trying the Toolbox! Did you happen to run both at the same time? It's possible there was a race condition while creating the default VM via Kitematic and the Quickstart Terminal at the same time. Lastly, choosing "Custom Install" in the Toolbox installer will let you de-select Kitematic, Docker Quickstart Terminal or any other parts you may not want!
  - SloopJon 11y ago
    Thanks for the reply. I hadn't quit Kitematic by the time I started Quickstart Terminal, but Kitematic had completed the creation of its VM: docker-machine ls showed default as running, and the docker cli button at the bottom of the window opened a usable docker session in that machine. It looks like Quickstart Terminal looks for the default VM using VBoxManage, rather than docker-machine, and hardcodes its location as /usr/local/bin. Mine's in /usr/bin, so the script failed to detect the existing machine. I don't have time to report this now, but I'll look at filing an issue this evening.
    - jmorgan 11y ago
      This is very helpful! Thanks for the info

by reustle 11y ago

Glad to see they finally gave some love to running docker on osx, as it is definitely a pain point for a lot of people. Hopefully Docker Toolbox is what we've been waiting for.

bkeroack 11y ago

I imagine it's still using virtualization under the hood, so it's no more "real" Docker than spinning up a Vagrant ubuntu box and running containers there.

SloopJon 11y ago

I started looking at Docker during vacation last week. I had a slightly outdated copy of Boot2Docker that didn't play well with VirtualBox 5.0. With limited bandwidth, I downloaded the docker-machine executable rather than the whole Boot2Docker package. Worked fine, and I was able to set up a variety of containers. When I got back to work this week, I started setting some of this up on my work Mac, and found a release candidate for the Docker Toolbox. It looks like it's the docker, docker-machine, and docker-compose executables plus the Kitematic GUI (haven't tried that yet). Looks like a decent package. Grumpy, off-topic digression after a week with limited Internet: please supply offline docs (Unreal), don't put a git clone command in the configure script to build them (Rust), don't require an external crate in a tutorial (random number generator for Rust), don't put a link to a CDN in your offline docs (Leap Motion SDK), don't require activation after a 2 GB download (Unity Personal). I did luck out and find a WebSocket library in the Go tutorial, which I used to grab JSON from the Leap to load into MongoDB (in a Docker container). Grumpy, mostly on-topic digression: docker-compose doesn't work on my work Mac, and no one seems to know how to fix it: https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/271 https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/271 Haven't yet managed to rebuild it locally as suggested. Edit: some observations after installing Docker Toolbox. Kitematic is an Electron app (complete with a Toggle DevTools menu that covers the window with a web dev console). It doesn't tell you what it's doing, but docker-machine shows that it created a machine named default using the VirtualBox driver with the default settings. Opening the Docker Quickstart Terminal stopped (and deleted?) the machine that Kitematic made and started a new one with the same name and settings. I think I'd be just as happy with only the docker and docker-machine executables.

jmorgan 11y ago
Thanks for trying the Toolbox! Did you happen to run both at the same time? It's possible there was a race condition while creating the default VM via Kitematic and the Quickstart Terminal at the same time. Lastly, choosing "Custom Install" in the Toolbox installer will let you de-select Kitematic, Docker Quickstart Terminal or any other parts you may not want!
- SloopJon 11y ago
  Thanks for the reply. I hadn't quit Kitematic by the time I started Quickstart Terminal, but Kitematic had completed the creation of its VM: docker-machine ls showed default as running, and the docker cli button at the bottom of the window opened a usable docker session in that machine. It looks like Quickstart Terminal looks for the default VM using VBoxManage, rather than docker-machine, and hardcodes its location as /usr/local/bin. Mine's in /usr/bin, so the script failed to detect the existing machine. I don't have time to report this now, but I'll look at filing an issue this evening.
  - jmorgan 11y ago
    This is very helpful! Thanks for the info