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That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. Personally, I would rather have my work valued the same wa

That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. Personally, I would rather have my work valued the same way if I was 14 or 64... In the case of my current work, I would say I have put the same amount of time into learning and working as people twice my age (Though I guess that means I haven't had much of a life otherwsise, heh). Regardless of my age, I think my work should stand on its own against anything that currently exists. If you add an age qualifier, it does feel insulting (at least for me). I should also mention that I have used my age to my advantage in some cases, but I strongly dislike people who use it as their main selling point, such as when people brag about being a "young startup founder" etc.

jacquesm 11y ago
> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. I see it rather the opposite. By mentioning his age the feat becomes all the more impressive.
- teddyh 11y ago
  The feat becomes more impressive, yes, but not the work – i.e. the result. If I want to be a peer among peers and contribute to society on an equal level, I can’t have people going “Ooh, that’s very good for a cripple/child/blind person. When they do that, I can never know if I am actually good enough or if people are only patronizing me.
  - freyr 11y ago
    If you're seeking approval from other people to determine if you're "good enough," you're heading down the wrong path. Also, this is a ridiculous conversation. The actual work of these teenage wunderkinds is very rarely on par with the work of similarly talented, but more experienced professionals. It's almost always about the feat. And that's okay, because the feat is indicative of future potential.
tachion 11y ago
> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. I think this isnt valid in this case - the work is more impressive exactly because it is being done by someone that young, and this is so huge accomplishment because it is so much easier and more common thing to achieve at later age. I can't see his work being discounted here. > Regardless of my age, I think my work should stand on its own against anything that currently exists. I also can't agree with that - if you have 30 years of programming experience and what you're making are hello-world type of programs (that's what I was doing around 14) then you are obviously underperforming and simply doing bad. However, at 14 the very same work was already outstanding when compared to my friends at the same age, because most of what they were doing was running around on the yard. And none of them ended up as a professional runner (but still, they might be happier today than me, being professional hello-world engineer ;)
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jacquesm 11y ago

> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. I see it rather the opposite. By mentioning his age the feat becomes all the more impressive.

teddyh 11y ago
The feat becomes more impressive, yes, but not the work – i.e. the result. If I want to be a peer among peers and contribute to society on an equal level, I can’t have people going “Ooh, that’s very good for a cripple/child/blind person. When they do that, I can never know if I am actually good enough or if people are only patronizing me.
- freyr 11y ago
  If you're seeking approval from other people to determine if you're "good enough," you're heading down the wrong path. Also, this is a ridiculous conversation. The actual work of these teenage wunderkinds is very rarely on par with the work of similarly talented, but more experienced professionals. It's almost always about the feat. And that's okay, because the feat is indicative of future potential.

tachion 11y ago

> That's not the point... by bringing up age as an important factor, you are then discounting the work. I think this isnt valid in this case - the work is more impressive exactly because it is being done by someone that young, and this is so huge accomplishment because it is so much easier and more common thing to achieve at later age. I can't see his work being discounted here. > Regardless of my age, I think my work should stand on its own against anything that currently exists. I also can't agree with that - if you have 30 years of programming experience and what you're making are hello-world type of programs (that's what I was doing around 14) then you are obviously underperforming and simply doing bad. However, at 14 the very same work was already outstanding when compared to my friends at the same age, because most of what they were doing was running around on the yard. And none of them ended up as a professional runner (but still, they might be happier today than me, being professional hello-world engineer ;)

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