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> Mayo told three different co-workers that he wanted to kill the supervisor. Yea, I don't know how one would structure a legal principle so as to prohibit fir

> Mayo told three different co-workers that he wanted to kill the supervisor. Yea, I don't know how one would structure a legal principle so as to prohibit firing someone under those conditions but still allow organization a way of removing threatening members.

crpatino 11y ago
I am not saying the employer was in the wrong for firing him after the fact. Or that he should be entitled to a job after the fact. Still, the guy would have been better of if he had kept his mouth shut and figured out a way to solve his problem - preferably one that did not involve shooting people. That's all I am saying.
- afarrell 11y ago
  I'll agree with that. I've been meaning to cook up an essay proposing that our culture develop some form of mental health check-up that is analogous to yearly physicals.
- orionblastar 11y ago
  I am mentally ill. I am non-violent. When my coworkers discovered I was mentally ill, I was picked on, bullied, and harassed. I don't take things out on others, instead I hold anger in and it made me sick. It made me so sick that I ended up on disability. I was only having depression when I was picked on and I developed schizoaffective disorder from the stress I was under. I don't know what went on in that workplace, but if it was like my workplace and they discovered he was mentally ill and picked on him, he made the wrong choice to make death threats. Not only should there be a mental health screening but a teaching of empathy and compassion for mentally ill people so they are not picked on, bullied, or harassed. I don't know how many public shootings we have to go through where they could have been prevented with mental health screenings and teaching people not to pick on the mentally ill. In my case I am high functioning, have empathy and compassion for others. Not everyone does.
  - mikekchar 11y ago
    I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I've worked with several people with mental health disorders and it is always a very difficult situation. It has taken me many years to learn how react appropriately, so I also would welcome some kind of education. As mental health disorders affect a significant portion of the population, perhaps it should be done as part of school. But even then, a lack on understanding mixed with fear can still cause people to act/react badly. One thing that worries me is that mental health issues can truly incapacitate people. For the person in the article, presumably returning to any kind of work will be extremely difficult. Who will take a chance to hire that person? What is he to do? If the state looks after such a person, how many healthy people will feel frustrated that somebody issues death threats and is "rewarded" by receiving care from the state. It is a highly difficult situation. As I have some good friends who have developed mental disorders, I feel truly grateful that I have do not have to cope with that myself (yet...). I hope you are able to successfully struggle through these difficult issues going forward.
    - orionblastar 11y ago
      Well getting off of disability and finding an employer that can work with your mental illness and accommodate you is like the hardest thing in the world. Many managers see mental illness as a personal weakness instead of an illness that needs treatment and support. That is what happened at my workplace my mental illness was seen as a weakness and they tried to weed me out by picking on, bullying, and harassing me until I left the company. I had a panic attack one day and they discovered I was mentally ill. I couldn't quit because it was hard to find work at the time, and I have a wife and son and house payments. Someone who threatens violence most likely won't end up on disability but will do things to end up in jail and await a trial. Threatening violence is threaten with intent to terrorize and a class C felony in some areas. If he does it again and the police are called, he'd face about a year in jail and mental hospitals as they try to figure out if he is fit to stand trial. If found guilty he'd spend 3 to 10 years in jail and have one strike against him in the felony section.
    - morgante 11y ago
      Maybe we should just accept that the point when you start planning to go on a killing spree is the point where society ceases to have any obligation for your well-being.

crpatino 11y ago

I am not saying the employer was in the wrong for firing him after the fact. Or that he should be entitled to a job after the fact. Still, the guy would have been better of if he had kept his mouth shut and figured out a way to solve his problem - preferably one that did not involve shooting people. That's all I am saying.

afarrell 11y ago
I'll agree with that. I've been meaning to cook up an essay proposing that our culture develop some form of mental health check-up that is analogous to yearly physicals.
orionblastar 11y ago
I am mentally ill. I am non-violent. When my coworkers discovered I was mentally ill, I was picked on, bullied, and harassed. I don't take things out on others, instead I hold anger in and it made me sick. It made me so sick that I ended up on disability. I was only having depression when I was picked on and I developed schizoaffective disorder from the stress I was under. I don't know what went on in that workplace, but if it was like my workplace and they discovered he was mentally ill and picked on him, he made the wrong choice to make death threats. Not only should there be a mental health screening but a teaching of empathy and compassion for mentally ill people so they are not picked on, bullied, or harassed. I don't know how many public shootings we have to go through where they could have been prevented with mental health screenings and teaching people not to pick on the mentally ill. In my case I am high functioning, have empathy and compassion for others. Not everyone does.
- mikekchar 11y ago
  I'm sorry that you had to go through that. I've worked with several people with mental health disorders and it is always a very difficult situation. It has taken me many years to learn how react appropriately, so I also would welcome some kind of education. As mental health disorders affect a significant portion of the population, perhaps it should be done as part of school. But even then, a lack on understanding mixed with fear can still cause people to act/react badly. One thing that worries me is that mental health issues can truly incapacitate people. For the person in the article, presumably returning to any kind of work will be extremely difficult. Who will take a chance to hire that person? What is he to do? If the state looks after such a person, how many healthy people will feel frustrated that somebody issues death threats and is "rewarded" by receiving care from the state. It is a highly difficult situation. As I have some good friends who have developed mental disorders, I feel truly grateful that I have do not have to cope with that myself (yet...). I hope you are able to successfully struggle through these difficult issues going forward.
  - orionblastar 11y ago
    Well getting off of disability and finding an employer that can work with your mental illness and accommodate you is like the hardest thing in the world. Many managers see mental illness as a personal weakness instead of an illness that needs treatment and support. That is what happened at my workplace my mental illness was seen as a weakness and they tried to weed me out by picking on, bullying, and harassing me until I left the company. I had a panic attack one day and they discovered I was mentally ill. I couldn't quit because it was hard to find work at the time, and I have a wife and son and house payments. Someone who threatens violence most likely won't end up on disability but will do things to end up in jail and await a trial. Threatening violence is threaten with intent to terrorize and a class C felony in some areas. If he does it again and the police are called, he'd face about a year in jail and mental hospitals as they try to figure out if he is fit to stand trial. If found guilty he'd spend 3 to 10 years in jail and have one strike against him in the felony section.
  - morgante 11y ago
    Maybe we should just accept that the point when you start planning to go on a killing spree is the point where society ceases to have any obligation for your well-being.