> I guess that depends on what we pay. Everyone gets more value than what they pay, from Bill Gates (Insert the US's largest tax payer here) on down. I can sa

> I guess that depends on what we pay. Everyone gets more value than what they pay, from Bill Gates (Insert the US's largest tax payer here) on down. I can safely say that I get more than my money's worth and so do you. That doesn't make it any more fun to pay taxes but it helps ease my pain a bit...YMMV. And, while nothing is perfect, there are some Really Bad Problems that we need to address. Overreaching government regulation doesn't even hold a candle to having so many people living in poverty -- even people who work full time. Nor does the tax burden register on the scales compared to the shoddy state of our health care system. That's what I meant to say -- that, while your concerns are valid and I am not advocating ignoring them or letting things tilt out of control, we've got much bigger fish to fry.