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This is very exciting. Facebook's commitment to open source never ceases to impress me. They could keep this technology to themselves and have light years or we
by picardo 11y ago
This is very exciting. Facebook's commitment to open source never ceases to impress me. They could keep this technology to themselves and have light years or we'd only read it in academic papers, like Google has done with its core technologies, and someone else would have to reverse engineer them. But Facebook gives the entire code base. No other large company I know of has such a strong commitment to open source.
- ThundaUp 11y agoNetflix has a pretty awesome open source library, they are worth checking out as well. https://netflix.github.io/ https://netflix.github.io/
- curun1r 11y agoIt's funny you should mention Netflix. They demoed something called Falkor two years ago that is/was extremely similar to Relay/GraphQL. It's unfortunate that it's made so little progress in the past two years, but it wouldn't surprise me of the talks on Falkor had influenced or inspired Facebook's implementation. For those that want links: https://twitter.com/falcorjs https://twitter.com/falcorjs http://moduscreate.com/falcor-mvc-for-an-asynchronous-world http://moduscreate.com/falcor-mvc-for-an-asynchronous-world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UgDZ4rXBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UgDZ4rXBU
- spicyj 11y ago> two years ago AFAIK Falcor was announced just six months ago in spring 2015; I assume it is making progress towards a release. Relay wasn't based on it.
- curun1r 11y agoYou're mistaken. My first exposure to it was a talk at QCon in Nov 2013. It wasn't posted publicly online until Feb 2014, but here's the link: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/netflix-reactive-rest http://www.infoq.com/presentations/netflix-reactive-rest
- robwormald 11y agofwiw Jafar announced last week it would be open sourced in the next couple of weeks [1], and a number of people have access already and are helping with documentation and the like. Falcor and Relay are conceptually similar but Relay is much more of a query engine, and Falcor isn't so much. [1] https://plus.google.com/events/ca3l6qalpu0uqcce58a379006m0 https://plus.google.com/events/ca3l6qalpu0uqcce58a379006m0
- lewisl9029 11y agoI remember from a David Nolen talk that Relay/GraphQL and Falkor were actually developed in complete isolation from each other, believe it or not. The fact that these two companies came up with the same idea independently just reinforces how truly beneficial it must be. I can't wait to try Om Next's implementation of this concept in my apps!
- marcell 11y ago> we'd only read it in academic papers, like Google has done with its core technologies Nit: Google has been pretty generous in supporting developers outside the company. Eg., see Golang, Kubernetes, JS closure library, protofubf, bazel, and many more at github.com/google.
- thrownaway2424 11y agoNot to mention being a top contributor to the Linux kernel, clang/llvm, mysql, doing almost everyone's security research for them (including, notoriously, finding most of the issues that get released in Apple security patches), etc. Facebook sure does a better job of evangelizing their own open source stuff, but I'm not sure that means they're actually contributing more. Even some of Facebook's "contributions" are ripped off from Google, like buck.
- LegNeato 11y agoBuck was not "ripped off" from Google any more than Hadoop was "ripped off" from Google.
- thrownaway2424 11y agoBuck is a nearly verbatim clone of the build system used inside Google, except that the word "blaze" has been replaced by the word "buck", and it was written by xooglers at facebook.
- picardo 11y agoEdit: I meant to write "...stay light years ahead."