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I don't believe I said anything about people wanting to sympathize with and support marginalized groups. I say power to them. Where I draw the line is groups o

by talmand 11y ago

I don't believe I said anything about people wanting to sympathize with and support marginalized groups. I say power to them. Where I draw the line is groups of people deciding not just for themselves but for everyone else what free expression and free speech means. Which is the group I described. This is the growing trend that I'm speaking of, which you seem to think is something to dismiss. I say you should pay attention to them because history shows that this is the type of people who do the most harm to the previously mentioned marginalized groups under the guise of bettering humanity.

qntty 11y ago
I understand where you're coming from, but I feel like the situation is basically how taurath described it. A lot of people buy into these narratives that make it seem like this is an issue of free speech vs. not being offended. In my own experience, as someone who recently graduated college, this is not what is happening in reality. I have never met someone who actually could be said to be against free speech in any meaningful way. I agree that there are specific cases of people getting way too carried away, but when you take these cases to be at all representative of the reasonable opinions of the other 99.9% of college students, then 99.9% of college students are going to get annoyed with you. I don't see any reason to believe that the people who take it too far are really being taken seriously by people (except by people who disagree with them), and so I don't really see why we should give them so much attention. The only function it serves is to misrepresent and distract from valid points raised by others. By all means tell me if you think I'm missing something.
- talmand 11y ago
  I'm really hopeful that you are right. I admit I'm more of the type that will be willing to step up early, maybe too early, to prevent things I see as wrong. In the end, if you are right and my concern is not warranted then that's fine. It'll all work out in the end. My concern is rooted in the thought we've been having to deal with this nonsense since the 90s and it only seems to be growing. Obviously it's a slow trend but most things spread slowly. The thought process at play has already made for hard times for people in and out of college. By the way, your response has been the most reasonable I've received in this thread. Thank you.

by talmand 11y ago

qntty 11y ago

I understand where you're coming from, but I feel like the situation is basically how taurath described it. A lot of people buy into these narratives that make it seem like this is an issue of free speech vs. not being offended. In my own experience, as someone who recently graduated college, this is not what is happening in reality. I have never met someone who actually could be said to be against free speech in any meaningful way. I agree that there are specific cases of people getting way too carried away, but when you take these cases to be at all representative of the reasonable opinions of the other 99.9% of college students, then 99.9% of college students are going to get annoyed with you. I don't see any reason to believe that the people who take it too far are really being taken seriously by people (except by people who disagree with them), and so I don't really see why we should give them so much attention. The only function it serves is to misrepresent and distract from valid points raised by others. By all means tell me if you think I'm missing something.

talmand 11y ago
I'm really hopeful that you are right. I admit I'm more of the type that will be willing to step up early, maybe too early, to prevent things I see as wrong. In the end, if you are right and my concern is not warranted then that's fine. It'll all work out in the end. My concern is rooted in the thought we've been having to deal with this nonsense since the 90s and it only seems to be growing. Obviously it's a slow trend but most things spread slowly. The thought process at play has already made for hard times for people in and out of college. By the way, your response has been the most reasonable I've received in this thread. Thank you.