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Unfortunately, just my being a "white NT cishet male" is offensive to some people. I can neither fix that for them nor take it seriously.

fredfoobar42 11y ago
Have you ever thought why that is? I'm a "white NT cishet male", as well, and at a glance, you can't tell the decent people from the awful ones. It's about behavior, and in a space where most people who look like us act like shit, it's not unreasonable to generalize a lack of trust. It's not on them to be understanding, it's on _us_. because we're in the position of privilege in this situation.
- code_duck 11y ago
  I could say the same about any specific group or class of people, and be a bigot. How horrible would that be considered if I said what you just said about another specific racial group?
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coldpie 11y ago
> just my being a "white NT cishet male" is offensive to some people No, it isn't. They are offended by something else about you.
- vezzy-fnord 11y ago
  Yes, it is. There are people who are intrinsically offended by people of all races, and some rationalize it with various collective narratives about power structures. Whether one kvetches about the Zionist Jews or the born-with-original-sin white men, it isn't practically different.
- code_duck 11y ago
  I'm not talking about interactions with individuals. I'm referring to people who post hate speech against members of that group online. It's not directed at me personally. As I was saying, it's bigotry against a group that includes me.
kelukelugames 11y ago
Have you tried not taking crazy people seriously? Stop feeling like a victim.
- bitwize 11y ago
  By calling certain people "crazy", and suggesting that they not be taken seriously, you're stigmatizing mental illness. Please stop.
- code_duck 11y ago
  I don't think I stated or implied that I feel like a victim. Also, I specifically said I don't take these prejudiced people seriously.
wan23 11y ago
What you just said is not a real position that anyone has (in large enough numbers to be worth talking about). The part where you don't take people seriously is the thing that is offensive. You might be confused because people talk about white males as being the only people who are in a position to completely ignore the feelings of everyone else if they choose to, as you seem to have chosen to do. But to be clear, it's not racism/sexism directed against you, it's a dislike of something that you specifically do.
- code_duck 11y ago
  That might be true if I was discussin interactions with individuals rather than blanket hate and prejudice on the Internet. How have I personally offended this person, for instance? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054067/Pictured-Diversity-officer-banned-whites-anti-racism-event-British-university-wiping-away-fake-tear-no-white-men-sign.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054067/Pictured-Div...

fredfoobar42 11y ago

Have you ever thought why that is? I'm a "white NT cishet male", as well, and at a glance, you can't tell the decent people from the awful ones. It's about behavior, and in a space where most people who look like us act like shit, it's not unreasonable to generalize a lack of trust. It's not on them to be understanding, it's on _us_. because we're in the position of privilege in this situation.

code_duck 11y ago
I could say the same about any specific group or class of people, and be a bigot. How horrible would that be considered if I said what you just said about another specific racial group?

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coldpie 11y ago

> just my being a "white NT cishet male" is offensive to some people No, it isn't. They are offended by something else about you.

vezzy-fnord 11y ago
Yes, it is. There are people who are intrinsically offended by people of all races, and some rationalize it with various collective narratives about power structures. Whether one kvetches about the Zionist Jews or the born-with-original-sin white men, it isn't practically different.
code_duck 11y ago
I'm not talking about interactions with individuals. I'm referring to people who post hate speech against members of that group online. It's not directed at me personally. As I was saying, it's bigotry against a group that includes me.

kelukelugames 11y ago

Have you tried not taking crazy people seriously? Stop feeling like a victim.

bitwize 11y ago
By calling certain people "crazy", and suggesting that they not be taken seriously, you're stigmatizing mental illness. Please stop.
code_duck 11y ago
I don't think I stated or implied that I feel like a victim. Also, I specifically said I don't take these prejudiced people seriously.

wan23 11y ago

What you just said is not a real position that anyone has (in large enough numbers to be worth talking about). The part where you don't take people seriously is the thing that is offensive. You might be confused because people talk about white males as being the only people who are in a position to completely ignore the feelings of everyone else if they choose to, as you seem to have chosen to do. But to be clear, it's not racism/sexism directed against you, it's a dislike of something that you specifically do.

code_duck 11y ago
That might be true if I was discussin interactions with individuals rather than blanket hate and prejudice on the Internet. How have I personally offended this person, for instance? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054067/Pictured-Diversity-officer-banned-whites-anti-racism-event-British-university-wiping-away-fake-tear-no-white-men-sign.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3054067/Pictured-Div...