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Why? For me and any others chiclet keyboard (especially ThinkPad style) is a lot nicer than older "touching" sloped keys.

by odiroot 11y ago

bitL 11y ago
Yes, for you. For me, definitely not. I am getting close to RSI when using any chiclet keyboard besides MBP that somehow made it fairly acceptable but still inferior to original ThinkPad. The rest, like newer ThinkPads, ASUS, Dell, Toshiba etc. are just plain awful, I feel pain in my wrists after ~20 minutes of using them. And a lot of touch typists complain about chiclet keyboards as well. Flatness everywhere is getting absurd recently. Yes, chiclet keyboards look often better (well, it's the opposite with ThinkPad actually, they IMO look much worse than their original keyboard) but I prefer ergonomy to aesthetics when creating algorithms - the last thing I want is to feel pain in my wrists during a creative phase of coding when I need to write, delete, rewrite and refactor a lot of code, seriously. Also, as a pianist I can notice subtle differences in the quality of keyboards. There is also one rule when playing on a piano - once you feel pain, you stop, you do something wrong or the instrument is not suitable for you and you'll injure yourself unless something is changed.
- odiroot 11y ago
  I meant exactly ergonomy, not the looks. For my fingers ThinkPad's chiclet keyboard is a lot better than both MBP's and old IBM keyboards. I guess to each their own.
- doktrin 11y ago
  That's interesting. Most people who I've seen share their opinion on this matter prefer the newer Lenovo keyboards to that of MBPs. Laptopmag also put out a fairly detailed comparison of Lenovo's "old" and "new" keyboards, with the newer island chiclet keys coming out on top, including on measures of audible and tactile feedback : http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-type-off-is-lenovos-new-island-style-keyboard-better-or-worse http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-type-off-is-lenovos-new-i...

Why? For me and any others chiclet keyboard (especially ThinkPad style) is a lot nicer than older "touching" sloped keys.

by odiroot 11y ago

Why? For me and any others chiclet keyboard (especially ThinkPad style) is a lot nicer than older "touching" sloped keys.

bitL 11y ago

Yes, for you. For me, definitely not. I am getting close to RSI when using any chiclet keyboard besides MBP that somehow made it fairly acceptable but still inferior to original ThinkPad. The rest, like newer ThinkPads, ASUS, Dell, Toshiba etc. are just plain awful, I feel pain in my wrists after ~20 minutes of using them. And a lot of touch typists complain about chiclet keyboards as well. Flatness everywhere is getting absurd recently. Yes, chiclet keyboards look often better (well, it's the opposite with ThinkPad actually, they IMO look much worse than their original keyboard) but I prefer ergonomy to aesthetics when creating algorithms - the last thing I want is to feel pain in my wrists during a creative phase of coding when I need to write, delete, rewrite and refactor a lot of code, seriously. Also, as a pianist I can notice subtle differences in the quality of keyboards. There is also one rule when playing on a piano - once you feel pain, you stop, you do something wrong or the instrument is not suitable for you and you'll injure yourself unless something is changed.

odiroot 11y ago
I meant exactly ergonomy, not the looks. For my fingers ThinkPad's chiclet keyboard is a lot better than both MBP's and old IBM keyboards. I guess to each their own.
doktrin 11y ago
That's interesting. Most people who I've seen share their opinion on this matter prefer the newer Lenovo keyboards to that of MBPs. Laptopmag also put out a fairly detailed comparison of Lenovo's "old" and "new" keyboards, with the newer island chiclet keys coming out on top, including on measures of audible and tactile feedback : http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-type-off-is-lenovos-new-island-style-keyboard-better-or-worse http://blog.laptopmag.com/thinkpad-type-off-is-lenovos-new-i...