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he hasn't been playing for the last 30 years- he has only embarassed himself.

kirubakaran 19y ago
He stood up to the government coz of what he believed in. Thats a big deal, irrespective of what he believed in seems nice or embarassing in your eyes.
- menloparkbum 19y ago
  > He stood up to the government coz of what he believed in. Yeah, what he believed was that the Holocaust didn't happen, and that Jews are filthy and evil and controlling the government and everything else. Glad he stood up for what he believed in.
  - kirubakaran 19y ago
    No, he had to be in exile in the first place because the played "The Soviets" when the bearucrats prohibited it.
    - anamax 19y ago
      No. He played A soviet in a Serbia in violation of an embargo. If you're going to argue that embargos are wrong, please start with the one against South Africa under apartheid.
      - kirubakaran 19y ago
        I am not saying that embargoes are bad in all situations. Trade embargoes against certain countries make sense. But I hope you will agree with me that branding someone a traitor just because he played with another dude is kinda extreme.
        neilc 19y ago
        It's not a question of "branding someone a traitor". There was an embargo against Serbia at the time, and the 1992 Fischer-Spassky chess match constituted a major commercial transaction (considering the press coverage and the $5 million prize money at stake). The State Department told Fischer about the consequences of playing the game well before it happened -- not only did he play the game anyway, he spat upon the letter from the State Department. IMHO he got pretty much what he deserved for that sort of behavior -- why not just play the match somewhere else, anyway?
        kirubakaran 19y ago
        Did anyone die when he spat on the letter? I don't care for his political views either. But I don't think anyone should be chased around the world like that because of the views they hold.
        neilc 19y ago
        He wasn't chased around the world for spitting, or for the views he held -- he was accused of violating the trade embargo, which is a serious allegation.
        rms 19y ago
        I would have violated the trade embargo for prize money that big.
  - edw519 19y ago
    In the interest of full disclosure, one could reference http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer All I kept thinking as I read through this was, "How could someone so brilliant say things so hateful and illogical?" I don't know. There are probably many theories (mental illness jumps out as one possibility). As far as Bobby Fischer is concerned, his downfall and later public pronouncements were tragic, but not as tragic as the loss of a human life. May he rest in peace.
    - yters 19y ago
      Brilliant people seem to go crazy kinda often.
- kirubakaran 19y ago
  I respect that you disagree with me but rational argument would be better than downmods.
- tlrobinson 19y ago
  "I say death to President Bush, I say death to the United States. Fuck the United States, fuck the Jews, the Jews are a criminal people, they mutilate their children, they are murderous, criminal, thieving, lying, bastards. They made up the Holocaust, there's not a word of truth to it. They are the worst liars and bastards. And now, what goes around, comes around, they're getting it back, finally. Praise God... Hallelujah, this is a wonderful day. Fuck the United States. Cry, you crybabies! Whine, you bastards! Now your time is coming! The US is getting what is coming to it. This is just the beginning." -- Speaking on Bombo Radyo, September 11, 2001
mynameishere 19y ago
I think it was generally understood that he was mentally unstable. He went on and on about the Jews, but he was 1/2 or even 100 percent Jewish himself, and he was aware of the fact. You can go to any insane asylum and tell the people that they are "embarassing themselves" but it's a little disingenuous.

He stood up to the government coz of what he believed in. Thats a big deal, irrespective of what he believed in seems nice or embarassing in your eyes.

menloparkbum 19y ago
> He stood up to the government coz of what he believed in. Yeah, what he believed was that the Holocaust didn't happen, and that Jews are filthy and evil and controlling the government and everything else. Glad he stood up for what he believed in.
- kirubakaran 19y ago
  No, he had to be in exile in the first place because the played "The Soviets" when the bearucrats prohibited it.
  - anamax 19y ago
    No. He played A soviet in a Serbia in violation of an embargo. If you're going to argue that embargos are wrong, please start with the one against South Africa under apartheid.
    - kirubakaran 19y ago
      I am not saying that embargoes are bad in all situations. Trade embargoes against certain countries make sense. But I hope you will agree with me that branding someone a traitor just because he played with another dude is kinda extreme.
      - neilc 19y ago
        It's not a question of "branding someone a traitor". There was an embargo against Serbia at the time, and the 1992 Fischer-Spassky chess match constituted a major commercial transaction (considering the press coverage and the $5 million prize money at stake). The State Department told Fischer about the consequences of playing the game well before it happened -- not only did he play the game anyway, he spat upon the letter from the State Department. IMHO he got pretty much what he deserved for that sort of behavior -- why not just play the match somewhere else, anyway?
        kirubakaran 19y ago
        Did anyone die when he spat on the letter? I don't care for his political views either. But I don't think anyone should be chased around the world like that because of the views they hold.
        neilc 19y ago
        He wasn't chased around the world for spitting, or for the views he held -- he was accused of violating the trade embargo, which is a serious allegation.
        rms 19y ago
        I would have violated the trade embargo for prize money that big.
- edw519 19y ago
  In the interest of full disclosure, one could reference http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer All I kept thinking as I read through this was, "How could someone so brilliant say things so hateful and illogical?" I don't know. There are probably many theories (mental illness jumps out as one possibility). As far as Bobby Fischer is concerned, his downfall and later public pronouncements were tragic, but not as tragic as the loss of a human life. May he rest in peace.
  - yters 19y ago
    Brilliant people seem to go crazy kinda often.
kirubakaran 19y ago
I respect that you disagree with me but rational argument would be better than downmods.
tlrobinson 19y ago
"I say death to President Bush, I say death to the United States. Fuck the United States, fuck the Jews, the Jews are a criminal people, they mutilate their children, they are murderous, criminal, thieving, lying, bastards. They made up the Holocaust, there's not a word of truth to it. They are the worst liars and bastards. And now, what goes around, comes around, they're getting it back, finally. Praise God... Hallelujah, this is a wonderful day. Fuck the United States. Cry, you crybabies! Whine, you bastards! Now your time is coming! The US is getting what is coming to it. This is just the beginning." -- Speaking on Bombo Radyo, September 11, 2001

mynameishere 19y ago

I think it was generally understood that he was mentally unstable. He went on and on about the Jews, but he was 1/2 or even 100 percent Jewish himself, and he was aware of the fact. You can go to any insane asylum and tell the people that they are "embarassing themselves" but it's a little disingenuous.