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Why should you have 'the right to be forgotten'? And why should it only be Google that has to do this? edit:Having to click 'accept cookies on every site' is

Why should you have 'the right to be forgotten'? And why should it only be Google that has to do this? edit:Having to click 'accept cookies on every site' is such EU nonsense too - does anyone really think you can't be tracked without cookies?

mike-cardwell 11y ago
BTW, if you want to get rid of all of those annoying EU cookie warnings, there is a filter list compatible with uBlock Origin and AdBlock here: https://github.com/r4vi/block-the-eu-cookie-shit-list https://github.com/r4vi/block-the-eu-cookie-shit-list
- V-2 11y ago
  That's nice, but I'd be more happy if I could block people who come up with these brilliant ideas from living off my taxes...
lagadu 11y ago
> Why should you have 'the right to be forgotten'? Why should anyone have any rights? Rights are granted by sovereign nations to their citizens. Sometimes (and this is a good example, the US "right to bear arms" is another good one) different nations give their citizens different rights. When these rights are given by democratically elected governments, it's fair to assess that the people collectively decided they wanted said rights and enacted them.
- ChristianBundy 11y ago
  But these rights almost always have a philosophical justification – they aren't just things that we want, they're bigger than that.
  - lagadu 11y ago
    The philosophical justification already exists; it's the same that is used over here for justifying our privacy laws (which include the right to privacy even in public for example, or how sex offender registries are usually banned): people's right to privacy is given a high value.
  - marrs 11y ago
    Perhaps people should be able to move on with their lives after they make mistakes.
    - seren 11y ago
      Moreover, in some circumstances, it is not even a mistake, but you've been the victim of something terrible, and your name will be associated forever with it. "I am not sure I want to employ/rent to someone who's been victim of X..."
rbehrends 11y ago
> edit:Having to click 'accept cookies on every site' is such EU nonsense too - does anyone really think you can't be tracked without cookies? The actual text of the directive refers to "the use of electronic communications networks to store information or to gain access to information stored in the terminal equipment of a subscriber or user". This includes, but is not limited to cookies. I'll also add that the use of the annoying "implied consent" mechanic that many member states tolerate (probably in order to not scare away advertising money) is not generally sufficient to implement the "right to refuse" demanded by the directive.

mike-cardwell 11y ago

BTW, if you want to get rid of all of those annoying EU cookie warnings, there is a filter list compatible with uBlock Origin and AdBlock here: https://github.com/r4vi/block-the-eu-cookie-shit-list https://github.com/r4vi/block-the-eu-cookie-shit-list

V-2 11y ago
That's nice, but I'd be more happy if I could block people who come up with these brilliant ideas from living off my taxes...

lagadu 11y ago

> Why should you have 'the right to be forgotten'? Why should anyone have any rights? Rights are granted by sovereign nations to their citizens. Sometimes (and this is a good example, the US "right to bear arms" is another good one) different nations give their citizens different rights. When these rights are given by democratically elected governments, it's fair to assess that the people collectively decided they wanted said rights and enacted them.

ChristianBundy 11y ago
But these rights almost always have a philosophical justification – they aren't just things that we want, they're bigger than that.
- lagadu 11y ago
  The philosophical justification already exists; it's the same that is used over here for justifying our privacy laws (which include the right to privacy even in public for example, or how sex offender registries are usually banned): people's right to privacy is given a high value.
- marrs 11y ago
  Perhaps people should be able to move on with their lives after they make mistakes.
  - seren 11y ago
    Moreover, in some circumstances, it is not even a mistake, but you've been the victim of something terrible, and your name will be associated forever with it. "I am not sure I want to employ/rent to someone who's been victim of X..."

rbehrends 11y ago

> edit:Having to click 'accept cookies on every site' is such EU nonsense too - does anyone really think you can't be tracked without cookies? The actual text of the directive refers to "the use of electronic communications networks to store information or to gain access to information stored in the terminal equipment of a subscriber or user". This includes, but is not limited to cookies. I'll also add that the use of the annoying "implied consent" mechanic that many member states tolerate (probably in order to not scare away advertising money) is not generally sufficient to implement the "right to refuse" demanded by the directive.