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If y'awl exercised, you'd know that meat heads have been fiddling with things which do this for ... decades. Almost a century if you count DNP. http://forum.bo

If y'awl exercised, you'd know that meat heads have been fiddling with things which do this for ... decades. Almost a century if you count DNP. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146743673&pagenumber=1 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146743673&pag...

xacaxulu 11y ago
It's "y'all" thank you.
- gadders 11y ago
  If there are more than five readers, shouldn't it be "All y'all"?
- elros 11y ago
  It really depends how south you go :-D
joeyspn 11y ago
Yes, they use this stuff as supplements, but thing is that they do real exercise. If you think that a pill is gonna make you healthier than 1-2h of daily exercise you're in for a surprise... These journos and their misleading reports...
joshribakoff 11y ago
From what I've read, in general the oral prohormones are harsher on the body as far as side effects. Some of the oral prohormones kill the liver & kidneys, which is why "real" steroids (hormones) are injected into the blood stream, which just trades off for different side effects, like higher risk of heart disease. Doing actual exercise feels great & lowers risk of heart disease. If some miracle breakthrough was discovered, I'd probably abstain & continue to just exercise. It seems like we never understand the true side effects of these things until decades later.
- saiya-jin 11y ago
  as good old chap Arnold once said, no pain, no gain. working out in any way goes much deeper than bigger muscles and better cardio system (and denser bones, and stronger joints, and...). one of most interesting side effects is that once you regularly push yourself from any sort of comfort zone into sweating-like-pig (or even better with climbing, pushing yourself over your fear or death which is pretty darn strong emotion), repeatedly, routinely, something strange and beautiful happens (well it did to me). you start taking life's challenges with a smile, not fearing them, rather taking them as a mean of improving oneself. I could go on, but I presume you get the picture. No pill is ever going to supplement this. And as you write, I would be also extremely surprised if this doesn't have multitude of nasty side effects on various parts of our bodies. But if you look around you, ie how much cash flows into diet supplements/losing weight business, yes it will be probably success. People are lazy, too busy etc. and are looking for quick solutions for their issues, rather than actually investing some time.

xacaxulu 11y ago

It's "y'all" thank you.

gadders 11y ago
If there are more than five readers, shouldn't it be "All y'all"?
elros 11y ago
It really depends how south you go :-D

joeyspn 11y ago

Yes, they use this stuff as supplements, but thing is that they do real exercise. If you think that a pill is gonna make you healthier than 1-2h of daily exercise you're in for a surprise... These journos and their misleading reports...

joshribakoff 11y ago

From what I've read, in general the oral prohormones are harsher on the body as far as side effects. Some of the oral prohormones kill the liver & kidneys, which is why "real" steroids (hormones) are injected into the blood stream, which just trades off for different side effects, like higher risk of heart disease. Doing actual exercise feels great & lowers risk of heart disease. If some miracle breakthrough was discovered, I'd probably abstain & continue to just exercise. It seems like we never understand the true side effects of these things until decades later.

saiya-jin 11y ago
as good old chap Arnold once said, no pain, no gain. working out in any way goes much deeper than bigger muscles and better cardio system (and denser bones, and stronger joints, and...). one of most interesting side effects is that once you regularly push yourself from any sort of comfort zone into sweating-like-pig (or even better with climbing, pushing yourself over your fear or death which is pretty darn strong emotion), repeatedly, routinely, something strange and beautiful happens (well it did to me). you start taking life's challenges with a smile, not fearing them, rather taking them as a mean of improving oneself. I could go on, but I presume you get the picture. No pill is ever going to supplement this. And as you write, I would be also extremely surprised if this doesn't have multitude of nasty side effects on various parts of our bodies. But if you look around you, ie how much cash flows into diet supplements/losing weight business, yes it will be probably success. People are lazy, too busy etc. and are looking for quick solutions for their issues, rather than actually investing some time.