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They have an incredible team but their browser is a skin for chromium compared to what it was before they dropped their engine (shortly after the founder left d

They have an incredible team but their browser is a skin for chromium compared to what it was before they dropped their engine (shortly after the founder left due to a board "too quarterly oriented". A couple years later the new opera is till far beyond what it was and it seems they're not even trying to fix this while vivaldi on the other hand is driven by a vision and has made much more progress in a more timely manner. I've been using opera as my main browser since they removed ads in 2005, today I'm still using presto based opera with no plan to switch to the blink based version of opera because many of the features that made opera are missing and are not coming back which make the "chromium skin" designation a reality.

feld 11y ago
so how badly does your presto opera fail the ssl client test?
- bmn_ 11y ago
  It fails not at all. Result of https://www.howsmytls.com/ https://www.howsmytls.com/ Version: Good Ephemeral Key Support: Good Session Ticket Support: Improvable TLS Compression: Good BEAST Vulnerability: Good Insecure Cipher Suites: Good Result of https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html Protocol Support: Your user agent has good protocol support. Logjam Vulnerability (Experimental): Your user agent is not vulnerable. FREAK Vulnerability: Your user agent is not vulnerable. POODLE Vulnerability: Your user agent is not vulnerable. Cipher Suites (in order of preference): TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (0x6b) Forward Secrecy ←←←←← listed first, other ciphers elided Protocol Details: Session tickets No ←←←←← feature is labelled in yellow, all other details are labelled in black or green, elided If outdated TLS ever becomes a pressing concern, it's easy to put a proxy in front of the browser.

feld 11y ago

so how badly does your presto opera fail the ssl client test?

bmn_ 11y ago
It fails not at all. Result of https://www.howsmytls.com/ https://www.howsmytls.com/ Version: Good Ephemeral Key Support: Good Session Ticket Support: Improvable TLS Compression: Good BEAST Vulnerability: Good Insecure Cipher Suites: Good Result of https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html Protocol Support: Your user agent has good protocol support. Logjam Vulnerability (Experimental): Your user agent is not vulnerable. FREAK Vulnerability: Your user agent is not vulnerable. POODLE Vulnerability: Your user agent is not vulnerable. Cipher Suites (in order of preference): TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (0x6b) Forward Secrecy ←←←←← listed first, other ciphers elided Protocol Details: Session tickets No ←←←←← feature is labelled in yellow, all other details are labelled in black or green, elided If outdated TLS ever becomes a pressing concern, it's easy to put a proxy in front of the browser.