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> but the syntax is too weird Ah, I've finally found someone in the wild who thinks Erlang's syntax is less weird than Elixir's! ;)

bliti 11y ago
It is weird. I do question their choice for ruby like syntax. Still is a fine language. It just gets confusing because a language is made up of its idioms and syntax. If you copy those a then you confuse people.
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jwatte 11y ago
Elixir fixed all the things that didn't matter, and made all the things that matter harder and more expensive. Raw Erlang is better for anyone used to more than three languages.
- phamilton 11y ago
  Protocols and Macros are a big deal in my opinion. If you think Elixir is merely about syntax, then I recommend you dive into those two topics.
- lectrick 11y ago
  As a guy who's been doing Ruby for 10 years, syntax matters very much to me. > and made all the things that matter harder and more expensive ... Explain? > Raw Erlang is better for anyone used to more than three languages. While I can read and write "raw Erlang", I prefer Elixir, for whatever reason. The macro facility alone is far more powerful than anything Erlang can provide, I enjoy things like pipe |> which was taken from... crap, forgot which language... http://danthorpe.me/posts/pipe.html http://danthorpe.me/posts/pipe.html, protocols are a useful addition, and strings are natively-supported UTF-8 binaries and not arrays (well, you have both actually, depending on whether you single-quote or double-quote the string). And while both seem to be roughly as terse, I just find Elixir to be far more readable and more-organized-looking, compare Shannon entropy algorithms here for example http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Entropy#Elixir http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Entropy#Elixir Anyway, a lot of it is opinion, but I think it's good from anyone's perspective that Elixir is ultimately bringing more clever people onto the BEAM VM.
  - cheepin 11y ago
    The pipe operator came from OCaml I believe and is also used in F#. Huge convenience for functional langauges.
    - lectrick 11y ago
      aha! Yes, OCaml. And F#. Although I think, OCaml was first.

bliti 11y ago

It is weird. I do question their choice for ruby like syntax. Still is a fine language. It just gets confusing because a language is made up of its idioms and syntax. If you copy those a then you confuse people.

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jwatte 11y ago

Elixir fixed all the things that didn't matter, and made all the things that matter harder and more expensive. Raw Erlang is better for anyone used to more than three languages.

phamilton 11y ago
Protocols and Macros are a big deal in my opinion. If you think Elixir is merely about syntax, then I recommend you dive into those two topics.
lectrick 11y ago
As a guy who's been doing Ruby for 10 years, syntax matters very much to me. > and made all the things that matter harder and more expensive ... Explain? > Raw Erlang is better for anyone used to more than three languages. While I can read and write "raw Erlang", I prefer Elixir, for whatever reason. The macro facility alone is far more powerful than anything Erlang can provide, I enjoy things like pipe |> which was taken from... crap, forgot which language... http://danthorpe.me/posts/pipe.html http://danthorpe.me/posts/pipe.html, protocols are a useful addition, and strings are natively-supported UTF-8 binaries and not arrays (well, you have both actually, depending on whether you single-quote or double-quote the string). And while both seem to be roughly as terse, I just find Elixir to be far more readable and more-organized-looking, compare Shannon entropy algorithms here for example http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Entropy#Elixir http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Entropy#Elixir Anyway, a lot of it is opinion, but I think it's good from anyone's perspective that Elixir is ultimately bringing more clever people onto the BEAM VM.
- cheepin 11y ago
  The pipe operator came from OCaml I believe and is also used in F#. Huge convenience for functional langauges.
  - lectrick 11y ago
    aha! Yes, OCaml. And F#. Although I think, OCaml was first.