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> It's sad, because we have now more languages than ever before, yet almost no one uses them, because they all "contempt" some of them, "dislike" others and are

> It's sad, because we have now more languages than ever before, yet almost no one uses them, because they all "contempt" some of them, "dislike" others and are "not interested" in the rest. "Using the best tool for the job" was never that easy, yet nobody wants to do it, choosing to try and translate completely incompatible semantics and features of one tool on top of another. It's really disappointing. JS is used to develop client-side web applications not because it's the best language for the job, but because it's the only language supported by all browsers. Those who like the philosophy and/or reach of the Web but don't want to use JS have no alternative to using languages like CoffeeScript.

klibertp 11y ago
> Those who like the philosophy and/or reach of the Web but don't want to use JS have no alternative to using languages like CoffeeScript. Could you explain what you mean by "languages like CoffeeScript"? If you mean it as "languages compiled to JS" then many of them are completely unlike Coffee in both syntax and semantics. There's a great many of them to choose from, too. But I think you completely missed my point, which is that you have an alternative for JS (in the form of compile to JS languages, but why should it matter if a language is compiled to JVM bytecode of JS code? It's an implementation detail!). You have an alternative for every single language out there, and a wide array of languages optimized for different use cases. Yet, instead of embracing this diversity, people try to push their favorite[1] language everywhere. Yeah, it's easier to write something that way, but until we have "sufficiently smart compilers" the effect is going to be worse than if you just used a best-suited language for each component of your system. [1] Maybe because it's the only one they know?

klibertp 11y ago

> Those who like the philosophy and/or reach of the Web but don't want to use JS have no alternative to using languages like CoffeeScript. Could you explain what you mean by "languages like CoffeeScript"? If you mean it as "languages compiled to JS" then many of them are completely unlike Coffee in both syntax and semantics. There's a great many of them to choose from, too. But I think you completely missed my point, which is that you have an alternative for JS (in the form of compile to JS languages, but why should it matter if a language is compiled to JVM bytecode of JS code? It's an implementation detail!). You have an alternative for every single language out there, and a wide array of languages optimized for different use cases. Yet, instead of embracing this diversity, people try to push their favorite[1] language everywhere. Yeah, it's easier to write something that way, but until we have "sufficiently smart compilers" the effect is going to be worse than if you just used a best-suited language for each component of your system. [1] Maybe because it's the only one they know?