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I'm rooting for http://ipfs.io http://ipfs.io.

by k2enemy 11y ago

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phusion 11y ago
Oooo this is interesting, it seems that P2P type stuff has been gaining steam again, since we can't trust anything hosted anymore.
- kordless 11y ago
  You can trust hosted things as long as you trust the deployment targets. Or, more specifically, have a trusted relationship with the deployment target.
theseatoms 11y ago
How does it do DNS? Like Namecoin? Reading the site now..
- kordless 11y ago
  We'll need a bridge into the current (centralized) DNS system. For now there is a domain that does that automatically for you.
- k2enemy 11y ago
  IPNS (The Inter-Planetary Naming System) is a step in that direction... http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsNTn2aDxdXBFca7D/example#/ipfs/QmThrNbvLj7afQZhxH72m5Nn1qiVn3eMKWFYV49Zp2mv9B/ipns/readme.md http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsN...
  - sktrdie 11y ago
    Is everything Inter-Planetary?
- whyrusleeping 11y ago
  We have IPNS, which allows you to have a mutable pointer to immutable content in ipfs. On top of that, you can put your IPNS name (which is still a longish ugly hash) into a DNS record to hide everything away (although youre still depending on DNS at that point) If you want to read more about ipns, its discussed in section 3.7 of the paper[1]. Do note that a few things have changed since the paper was last updated, so its not the source of truth right now. [1]: https://github.com/ipfs/papers/raw/master/ipfs-cap2pfs/ipfs-p2p-file-system.pdf https://github.com/ipfs/papers/raw/master/ipfs-cap2pfs/ipfs-...
Koahku 11y ago
I definitely agree, but it is still missing anonymity, which I consider extremely important. Of course it's built in such a way that you could run it on top of any anonymous network in theory but these networks are still way too slow to offer a good experience in my opinion. Still, I'm super excited every time I hear people talking about it.
stevenh 11y ago
What keeps someone from flooding it with trillions of files full of random data to waste all of the disk space on the participating nodes?
- Koahku 11y ago
  Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure that the data you add on IPFS isn't automatically replicated on participating nodes. Other nodes will only acquire the data when they request it.
  - whyrusleeping 11y ago
    This is correct.
kodablah 11y ago
I don't think it's enough since it seems to be storage oriented. You need compute and cheap non-persistent messaging too instead of just data storage/retrieval to reach parity w/ the modern internet.
- seanp2k2 11y ago
  Check out Urbit if you're into meeting weird nerds in a place with a high technical bar to participate :)

I'm rooting for http://ipfs.io http://ipfs.io.

by k2enemy 11y ago

I'm rooting for http://ipfs.io http://ipfs.io.

deleted 11y ago

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phusion 11y ago

Oooo this is interesting, it seems that P2P type stuff has been gaining steam again, since we can't trust anything hosted anymore.

kordless 11y ago
You can trust hosted things as long as you trust the deployment targets. Or, more specifically, have a trusted relationship with the deployment target.

theseatoms 11y ago

How does it do DNS? Like Namecoin? Reading the site now..

kordless 11y ago
We'll need a bridge into the current (centralized) DNS system. For now there is a domain that does that automatically for you.
k2enemy 11y ago
IPNS (The Inter-Planetary Naming System) is a step in that direction... http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsNTn2aDxdXBFca7D/example#/ipfs/QmThrNbvLj7afQZhxH72m5Nn1qiVn3eMKWFYV49Zp2mv9B/ipns/readme.md http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTkzDwWqPbnAh5YiV5VwcTLnGdwSNsN...
- sktrdie 11y ago
  Is everything Inter-Planetary?
whyrusleeping 11y ago
We have IPNS, which allows you to have a mutable pointer to immutable content in ipfs. On top of that, you can put your IPNS name (which is still a longish ugly hash) into a DNS record to hide everything away (although youre still depending on DNS at that point) If you want to read more about ipns, its discussed in section 3.7 of the paper[1]. Do note that a few things have changed since the paper was last updated, so its not the source of truth right now. [1]: https://github.com/ipfs/papers/raw/master/ipfs-cap2pfs/ipfs-p2p-file-system.pdf https://github.com/ipfs/papers/raw/master/ipfs-cap2pfs/ipfs-...

Koahku 11y ago

I definitely agree, but it is still missing anonymity, which I consider extremely important. Of course it's built in such a way that you could run it on top of any anonymous network in theory but these networks are still way too slow to offer a good experience in my opinion. Still, I'm super excited every time I hear people talking about it.

stevenh 11y ago

What keeps someone from flooding it with trillions of files full of random data to waste all of the disk space on the participating nodes?

Koahku 11y ago
Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure that the data you add on IPFS isn't automatically replicated on participating nodes. Other nodes will only acquire the data when they request it.
- whyrusleeping 11y ago
  This is correct.

kodablah 11y ago

I don't think it's enough since it seems to be storage oriented. You need compute and cheap non-persistent messaging too instead of just data storage/retrieval to reach parity w/ the modern internet.

seanp2k2 11y ago
Check out Urbit if you're into meeting weird nerds in a place with a high technical bar to participate :)