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How do you intend to have money without a central bank? Should we all swap gold bars? What if I have a different view of the value of gold/bitcoin? Also, I'll

How do you intend to have money without a central bank? Should we all swap gold bars? What if I have a different view of the value of gold/bitcoin? Also, I'll play along if that's what you want. > You could just build a road and then ask people to pay for using it 1. I'm going to use your road and not pay. What are you going to do about it? 2. I don't believe you have rights to the land the road is on. How do you prove you have that right? 3. I'm going to build a circular road around a village, then charge $1 trillion for anyone to cross it. Should they starve to death rather then disobey me? 4. I've just shot your best friend in the street because I didn't like the colour of their hair? What are your options? Please feel free to explain how, in the absence of taxation or joint societal constructs like a government, you're in a good place here?

kuschku 11y ago
He’s one of the anarcho-capitalist hardcore bitcoin defenders that hang out in #bitcoin-assets, too. Just ignore him, I wasted a week trying to talk to these kind of people, it’s of no use.
- summerdown2 11y ago
  Aye. I just wish it were different. Incidentally, I've just come back from the Netherlands, where the rather excellent Rotterdam Museum of Customs had a series of quite nicely inquiring exhibits going into exactly why we pay tax and all the nice things it gives to the Netherlands. I wish my own society (the UK) felt more confident about putting forward a pro-taxation argument. Ultimately, it's a kind of social glue that's needed I think.
- sillygeese 11y ago
  More like, they wasted a week on talking to you.
sillygeese 11y ago
You didn't actually address any of my questions, so I'll just refrain from addressing yours.
- summerdown2 11y ago
  Thought so. Also this shouldn't need pointing out, but I did answer at least one of your questions: > You do realize they're still taking your money by force, don't you? ... with the response: > How do you intend to have money without a central bank? I guess I could generalise it to "plus law courts, legal system and police force," if you like. The real problem you have is that "someone taking your money" assumes you have money in the first place, and there's no such thing as money absent a framework that provides it. Otherwise it's just bits of green paper/coloured metal/bits on a computer. Or would you like to swap ten chickens for my sheep? No? I think I'll just shoot you and take the chickens anyway then.

kuschku 11y ago

He’s one of the anarcho-capitalist hardcore bitcoin defenders that hang out in #bitcoin-assets, too. Just ignore him, I wasted a week trying to talk to these kind of people, it’s of no use.

summerdown2 11y ago
Aye. I just wish it were different. Incidentally, I've just come back from the Netherlands, where the rather excellent Rotterdam Museum of Customs had a series of quite nicely inquiring exhibits going into exactly why we pay tax and all the nice things it gives to the Netherlands. I wish my own society (the UK) felt more confident about putting forward a pro-taxation argument. Ultimately, it's a kind of social glue that's needed I think.
sillygeese 11y ago
More like, they wasted a week on talking to you.

sillygeese 11y ago

You didn't actually address any of my questions, so I'll just refrain from addressing yours.

summerdown2 11y ago
Thought so. Also this shouldn't need pointing out, but I did answer at least one of your questions: > You do realize they're still taking your money by force, don't you? ... with the response: > How do you intend to have money without a central bank? I guess I could generalise it to "plus law courts, legal system and police force," if you like. The real problem you have is that "someone taking your money" assumes you have money in the first place, and there's no such thing as money absent a framework that provides it. Otherwise it's just bits of green paper/coloured metal/bits on a computer. Or would you like to swap ten chickens for my sheep? No? I think I'll just shoot you and take the chickens anyway then.