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How would you know? EDIT: I meant that seriously--any functionality which can update the firmware can, by definition, remove your ability to tell that it's do
by angersock 11y ago
How would you know?
EDIT:
I meant that seriously--any functionality which can update the firmware can, by definition, remove your ability to tell that it's doing other things, too. See also "Reflections on Trusting Trust".
EDIT2:
And another downvote. Some people are absurd and clearly don't understand what is a completely reasonable comment about the nature of the security here.
It's not, "How would you (somebody unskilled in these things, snarf snarf, mere mortal compared to angersock) know (anything about this)?".
It's, "How would you (consumer without access to the source code being deployed) know (given that the machine can be made to fake output to whatever is most likely to make you think it's behaving normally)?"
Jesus.
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- eclipxe 11y agoI didn't read it that way at all. I read it as "how would you [any consumer] know if personal data was being shared?" not "how would you [comment op] if personal data was being shared?"
- joosters 11y agoFrom Tesla's privacy policy: * Telematics Log Data: To improve our vehicles and services for you, we collect certain telematics data regarding the performance, usage, operation, and condition of your Tesla vehicle, including the following: vehicle identification number, speed information, odometer readings, battery use management information, battery charging history, electrical system functions, software version information, infotainment system data, safety‐related data (including information regarding the vehicle’s SRS systems, brakes, security, e‐brake), and other data to assist in identifying and analyzing the performance of the vehicle. We may collect such information either in person (e.g., during a service appointment) or via remote access. * Remote vehicle analysis: We may be able to dynamically connect to your Tesla vehicle to diagnose and resolve issues with it, and this process may result in access to personal settings in the vehicle (such as contacts, browsing history, navigation history, and radio listening history). This dynamic connection also enables us to view the current location of your vehicle, but such access is restricted to a limited number of personnel within Tesla. Maybe there is a way to opt out of this, but I can't see it.
- DEinspanjer 11y agoI thought about downvoting you. The comment was brief and offered no insight or context into what you were thinking or saying. If you would have started out with the variant at the bottom, I never would have thought about downvoting you.
- angersock 11y agoFunny quirk of the English language--had I written instead "How would one know?", I think it would have avoided the ambiguity that ruffled feathers.