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I'm about to build a new rig as well and was waiting on Skylake to see if I wanted to jump in. After seeing the reviews and price points, I'm going to pass and

by talmand 11y ago

I'm about to build a new rig as well and was waiting on Skylake to see if I wanted to jump in. After seeing the reviews and price points, I'm going to pass and go with Haswell. The pros do not justify the price premium to me. Right now the difference for me is around $150, which I'd rather sink into the video card. Also, I've read that the Skylake CPUs don't come with a cooling solution, you have to buy your own third-party cooling solution which adds to the cost. I know many people think the stock cooling sucks, which it does for overclocking. But if you don't overclock, the best reason for a third-party cooling solution is to reduce noise. Currently I'm planning on an i5 as I've never seen an advantage to having an i7 for gaming. An i5 and a good video card is all you need.

kenrikm 11y ago
I can recommend the i5 4460 which is about ~$180. It's a locked 4690k for about $60 less but honestly is able to play even the most demanding games on Ultra settings (Witcher 3 / GTA 5) if pared with a good GPU. I would advise picking up a Z97 Motherboard to go with it so if you do want to upgrade the processor in a few years you have a path to the higher end of the Haswell line.
- talmand 11y ago
  If you buy a locked i5, consider a H97 board instead. Z97 allows for overclocking, which you can't do with a locked CPU. Just match the features you want for a bit less. Most H97 boards will cover the Haswell line just fine, just no or limited overclocking. Of course, if you find a Z97 that has what you want at a similar or lower price, then by all means go for it.
  - kenrikm 11y ago
    Z97 is useful because if you decide to upgrade to one of the higher end overclockable CPUs in the future you can. I found the difference in price can be really small or the same. I went with a Gigabyte Black board which is around ~$135 on Amazon and supports SLI. http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-Motherboard-Integrated-Graphics/dp/B00K872IT6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1438894781&sr=8-2&keywords=z97 http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-Motherboard-I...
    - talmand 11y ago
      I think I said all that, more or less. Except for the SLI part, as that might be an issue with H97 that needs to be checked before purchase.
cdr 11y ago
If you care about spending an extra $30 on a CPU cooler, I'd say Skylake is definitely not for you. If you're getting Skylake for gaming you should probably be planning to drop $400 (or more for a bigger size) on an Intel 750 SSD.
- talmand 11y ago
  When pricing on a budget, yes, $30 can be a big deal. Let's see, $250 CPU + $30 cooler (realistically, should be higher) versus $200 CPU that suits my needs just fine. Gives me an extra $80 to maybe upgrade elsewhere that might make a bigger difference to my goals. Why exactly is a $400 SSD suggested to go with Skylake for gaming? Why not a $100 SSD? What does the size of the SDD have to do with Skylake? I'm failing to understand your point.
  - cdr 11y ago
    If you're not interested in spending the money to get top-tier performance, there's absolutely no reason to buy Skylake right now. The Intel 750 is NVMe, the next generation of storage interface. The 750 can outperform a SATA SSD by 10x in reads, and even versus an outstanding SATA SSD will get you at least a 4x increase. Load times are actually pretty important for games, and after a GPU I don't think there's anywhere you could spend extra that would give you more quality of life. You'd already be looking at $250 for a similarly-sized high-performance SATA SSD, so the price difference isn't that large. You aren't getting high performance even as far as SATA for $100.
    - talmand 11y ago
      I cannot disagree, I think that you actually supported my point for the most part.
icegreentea 11y ago
The two currently released Skylake CPUs are both unlocked (K) models. It may be worth waiting for the rest of the roll out to see what happens. It might be that Intel will ship a stock cooling solution for their locked models.
- talmand 11y ago
  Locked models are reported to come out in Q3. I would imagine pricing will be similar. I doubt the performance would be much different so I can't see reasons for me to wait. If there was a thought it would drag prices of other CPUs down then it would be worth considering. But all the costs associated with Skylake at the moment with the new RAM type, new motherboard type, new CPU type and with all the premium pricing for these components is too much for too little to me.

by talmand 11y ago

kenrikm 11y ago

I can recommend the i5 4460 which is about ~$180. It's a locked 4690k for about $60 less but honestly is able to play even the most demanding games on Ultra settings (Witcher 3 / GTA 5) if pared with a good GPU. I would advise picking up a Z97 Motherboard to go with it so if you do want to upgrade the processor in a few years you have a path to the higher end of the Haswell line.

talmand 11y ago
If you buy a locked i5, consider a H97 board instead. Z97 allows for overclocking, which you can't do with a locked CPU. Just match the features you want for a bit less. Most H97 boards will cover the Haswell line just fine, just no or limited overclocking. Of course, if you find a Z97 that has what you want at a similar or lower price, then by all means go for it.
- kenrikm 11y ago
  Z97 is useful because if you decide to upgrade to one of the higher end overclockable CPUs in the future you can. I found the difference in price can be really small or the same. I went with a Gigabyte Black board which is around ~$135 on Amazon and supports SLI. http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-Motherboard-Integrated-Graphics/dp/B00K872IT6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1438894781&sr=8-2&keywords=z97 http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-Motherboard-I...
  - talmand 11y ago
    I think I said all that, more or less. Except for the SLI part, as that might be an issue with H97 that needs to be checked before purchase.

cdr 11y ago

If you care about spending an extra $30 on a CPU cooler, I'd say Skylake is definitely not for you. If you're getting Skylake for gaming you should probably be planning to drop $400 (or more for a bigger size) on an Intel 750 SSD.

talmand 11y ago
When pricing on a budget, yes, $30 can be a big deal. Let's see, $250 CPU + $30 cooler (realistically, should be higher) versus $200 CPU that suits my needs just fine. Gives me an extra $80 to maybe upgrade elsewhere that might make a bigger difference to my goals. Why exactly is a $400 SSD suggested to go with Skylake for gaming? Why not a $100 SSD? What does the size of the SDD have to do with Skylake? I'm failing to understand your point.
- cdr 11y ago
  If you're not interested in spending the money to get top-tier performance, there's absolutely no reason to buy Skylake right now. The Intel 750 is NVMe, the next generation of storage interface. The 750 can outperform a SATA SSD by 10x in reads, and even versus an outstanding SATA SSD will get you at least a 4x increase. Load times are actually pretty important for games, and after a GPU I don't think there's anywhere you could spend extra that would give you more quality of life. You'd already be looking at $250 for a similarly-sized high-performance SATA SSD, so the price difference isn't that large. You aren't getting high performance even as far as SATA for $100.
  - talmand 11y ago
    I cannot disagree, I think that you actually supported my point for the most part.

icegreentea 11y ago

The two currently released Skylake CPUs are both unlocked (K) models. It may be worth waiting for the rest of the roll out to see what happens. It might be that Intel will ship a stock cooling solution for their locked models.

talmand 11y ago
Locked models are reported to come out in Q3. I would imagine pricing will be similar. I doubt the performance would be much different so I can't see reasons for me to wait. If there was a thought it would drag prices of other CPUs down then it would be worth considering. But all the costs associated with Skylake at the moment with the new RAM type, new motherboard type, new CPU type and with all the premium pricing for these components is too much for too little to me.