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You could stamp everyone of your posts with a CC-NC license. Since the content is yours - I don't think they can magically wave the CC-NC license on the basis t

by nadams 11y ago

You could stamp everyone of your posts with a CC-NC license. Since the content is yours - I don't think they can magically wave the CC-NC license on the basis that you uploaded it to their site.

ianlevesque 11y ago
IANAL but if you agreed to their terms and uploaded something then you've relicensed it to them. This is the same as those misguided souls posting copyright notices under their Facebook messages.
- nadams 11y ago
  I mean TOS, EULAs etc only go so far. If you think they are the word of god - then I'll create a TOS on my site that says for every page view you agree to pay me $X. Then when I sue you to get the money - any judge who isn't taking mind altering drugs should throw it out. Interestingly enough Apple also had their Safari EULA state that you couldn't install it on a PC [1]. Obviously it was never brought to court - but still I'm sure thousands of people violated the EULA. My take is yes - someone who operates a website/service can blanket content you upload unless you explicitly state otherwise. So here is a hypothetical question - you own the copyright of the material in question. Reddit makes a copy of your reddit post for their daily feed or something - could you send a DMCA removal request? I'm sure you would say no because of the TOS - but don't you own the original copyright? > This is the same as those misguided souls posting copyright notices under their Facebook messages. And from what I read basically Facebook has the ability to use public posts/pictures - which makes total sense (posting the copyright notice only makes you look like a fool). If you don't want them to use it - adjust your privacy settings. Here is an example of a ridiculous TOS [2]. > Permission is granted to freely print, unmodified, up to 200 copies How do you know how many I printed? Perhaps I scanned copies - would those be considered prints? [1] http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agreed/ http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agre... [2] http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
herge 11y ago
If you use their service, you first have to agree to their terms. You can put any magical gobledy-gook in your text, but your 'active' (if only by clicking on a button) acceptance of their terms will hold up better in court. Same as for this text right here and the good folks at ycombinator. Now for your own content hosted on your own site that you control, it's a whole other story.
ikeboy 11y ago
>By submitting user content to reddit, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute copies, perform, or publicly display your user content in any medium and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so. How does slapping another license on it dissolve this one? They're using it under this other license that you agreed to, not the CC-NC one.

by nadams 11y ago

You could stamp everyone of your posts with a CC-NC license. Since the content is yours - I don't think they can magically wave the CC-NC license on the basis that you uploaded it to their site.

ianlevesque 11y ago

IANAL but if you agreed to their terms and uploaded something then you've relicensed it to them. This is the same as those misguided souls posting copyright notices under their Facebook messages.

nadams 11y ago
I mean TOS, EULAs etc only go so far. If you think they are the word of god - then I'll create a TOS on my site that says for every page view you agree to pay me $X. Then when I sue you to get the money - any judge who isn't taking mind altering drugs should throw it out. Interestingly enough Apple also had their Safari EULA state that you couldn't install it on a PC [1]. Obviously it was never brought to court - but still I'm sure thousands of people violated the EULA. My take is yes - someone who operates a website/service can blanket content you upload unless you explicitly state otherwise. So here is a hypothetical question - you own the copyright of the material in question. Reddit makes a copy of your reddit post for their daily feed or something - could you send a DMCA removal request? I'm sure you would say no because of the TOS - but don't you own the original copyright? > This is the same as those misguided souls posting copyright notices under their Facebook messages. And from what I read basically Facebook has the ability to use public posts/pictures - which makes total sense (posting the copyright notice only makes you look like a fool). If you don't want them to use it - adjust your privacy settings. Here is an example of a ridiculous TOS [2]. > Permission is granted to freely print, unmodified, up to 200 copies How do you know how many I printed? Perhaps I scanned copies - would those be considered prints? [1] http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agreed/ http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agre... [2] http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

herge 11y ago

If you use their service, you first have to agree to their terms. You can put any magical gobledy-gook in your text, but your 'active' (if only by clicking on a button) acceptance of their terms will hold up better in court. Same as for this text right here and the good folks at ycombinator. Now for your own content hosted on your own site that you control, it's a whole other story.

ikeboy 11y ago

>By submitting user content to reddit, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute copies, perform, or publicly display your user content in any medium and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so. How does slapping another license on it dissolve this one? They're using it under this other license that you agreed to, not the CC-NC one.