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Moonlight 2 Released

16 points by felixmar 17y ago

Tichy 17y ago
"We worked with Microsoft to make sure that Moonlight was available to everyone on Linux and BSD." Why doesn't Microsoft just open source Silverlight? Much as I applaud the energy and work of the Moonlight developers, I personally would have a lot of difficulty with donating my time to do a multi-billion-dollar corporation's job.
- lrm242 17y ago
  Do you feel the same way about MySQL, Java, or Eclipse, for example? Why is it so bad that a group of developers are motivated to port a commercial product? And why is the reaction "MS should do this" instead of "Thanks MS for helping out". I just don't get the animosity around Mono and Moonlight. Those guys have balls, and they're doing great work to bring a set of technologies and tools to Linux. Why is this in any way bad? And please leave the IP poisoning arguments at the door--those have been thoroughly addressed and that horse has been beaten to a bloody pulp.
  - Tichy 17y ago
    I was just expressing my personal opinion. I have nothing against them porting whatever they like. I just don't understand the motivation myself. Just think, what if the same effort that went into copying Silverlight had been put into creating a true open source alternative to Flash and Silverlight?
    - leej 17y ago
      there "are" open source alternatives to flash.
      - Tichy 17y ago
        Which ones? I only know SVG, but I suspect it doesn't really cover everything that flash does.
  - zokier 17y ago
    It's just strange that MS uses its resources, both directly and indirectly, to help Mono/Moonlight when it just could opensource (parts of) .NET/Silverlight.
    - qeorge 17y ago
      The page indicates that Moonlight contains 125,000 LOC (of roughly 500k) from open source Silverlight controls put out by Microsoft.
    - andrewl-hn 17y ago
      Patents or some other intellectual property rights might be an issue. Opensourcing a product of that scale can be very complicated. Java comes to mind, for example. It took Sun about two years from the initial announcement to a completely opensource release of JDK.
jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
On my phone so I can't search thoroughly yet. Does this mean netflix silverlifht drm is dealt with?
- jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
  not sure why this got downvoted? by dealt with, i meant: can i watch netflix on linux yet and have the drm issues been legally+properly dealt with to ensure viewers can enjoy the experience and copyright owners feel protected?
- zokier 17y ago
  Miguel says "It is very unlikely that we will get PlayReady DRM on Linux."

16 points by felixmar 17y ago

Tichy 17y ago

"We worked with Microsoft to make sure that Moonlight was available to everyone on Linux and BSD." Why doesn't Microsoft just open source Silverlight? Much as I applaud the energy and work of the Moonlight developers, I personally would have a lot of difficulty with donating my time to do a multi-billion-dollar corporation's job.

lrm242 17y ago
Do you feel the same way about MySQL, Java, or Eclipse, for example? Why is it so bad that a group of developers are motivated to port a commercial product? And why is the reaction "MS should do this" instead of "Thanks MS for helping out". I just don't get the animosity around Mono and Moonlight. Those guys have balls, and they're doing great work to bring a set of technologies and tools to Linux. Why is this in any way bad? And please leave the IP poisoning arguments at the door--those have been thoroughly addressed and that horse has been beaten to a bloody pulp.
- Tichy 17y ago
  I was just expressing my personal opinion. I have nothing against them porting whatever they like. I just don't understand the motivation myself. Just think, what if the same effort that went into copying Silverlight had been put into creating a true open source alternative to Flash and Silverlight?
  - leej 17y ago
    there "are" open source alternatives to flash.
    - Tichy 17y ago
      Which ones? I only know SVG, but I suspect it doesn't really cover everything that flash does.
- zokier 17y ago
  It's just strange that MS uses its resources, both directly and indirectly, to help Mono/Moonlight when it just could opensource (parts of) .NET/Silverlight.
  - qeorge 17y ago
    The page indicates that Moonlight contains 125,000 LOC (of roughly 500k) from open source Silverlight controls put out by Microsoft.
  - andrewl-hn 17y ago
    Patents or some other intellectual property rights might be an issue. Opensourcing a product of that scale can be very complicated. Java comes to mind, for example. It took Sun about two years from the initial announcement to a completely opensource release of JDK.

jasonlbaptiste 17y ago

On my phone so I can't search thoroughly yet. Does this mean netflix silverlifht drm is dealt with?

jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
not sure why this got downvoted? by dealt with, i meant: can i watch netflix on linux yet and have the drm issues been legally+properly dealt with to ensure viewers can enjoy the experience and copyright owners feel protected?
zokier 17y ago
Miguel says "It is very unlikely that we will get PlayReady DRM on Linux."