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"offering parental benefits is a way to encourage people to have babies" I'm shaking my head reading this comment. Also please do not equate having a baby to

by dannyr 11y ago

"offering parental benefits is a way to encourage people to have babies" I'm shaking my head reading this comment. Also please do not equate having a baby to pursuing a hobby.

aianus 11y ago
Why not? It's ridiculous the sense of entitlement parents have. You're not special because you figured out how your reproductive system works and you don't deserve special benefits.
- mhurron 11y ago
  > you don't deserve special benefits. Society feels differently, and Micorsoft here recognizes this and can use that to provide incentives to future hires and retain existing ones. Secondly, raising kids is not a hobby, that's why they shouldn't be conflated. And you can take your entitlement charge that you're about to level at me and shove it up your ass. I don't have kids, I won't have kids, I really kind of hate kids, but even I can see it's not a god damn hobby.
  - aianus 11y ago
    It is, in fact, a hobby; a selfish, narcissistic, and extremely expensive one.
    - ux-app 11y ago
      I think you might be projecting a bit.
- ux-app 11y ago
  > "It's ridiculous the sense of entitlement parents have." It's not a sense of entitlement that drives these kinds of changes. It's a recognition that child rearing is an important societal activity, and that in a modern, privileged, civilized society we should not have workplace policies in place that are hostile toward parents. Ageing populations are a real and present threat to many first world countries. In most western countries this is recognized at the governmental level with leave schemes, childcare subsidies etc. This is also in response to changes in work patterns. In the 50s it was very uncommon for both mother and father to be working. Now the opposite is the case. Shouldn't society then move to restore the balance in a sense by applying what you call "special benefits" to parents?
  - aianus 11y ago
    The entitlement was evident in his footnote "please do not equate having a baby to pursuing a hobby." I should have been more specific that parents should not be entitled to special benefits at work. It would make sense for a government program to subsidize child rearing to some extent.

by dannyr 11y ago

"offering parental benefits is a way to encourage people to have babies" I'm shaking my head reading this comment. Also please do not equate having a baby to pursuing a hobby.

aianus 11y ago

Why not? It's ridiculous the sense of entitlement parents have. You're not special because you figured out how your reproductive system works and you don't deserve special benefits.

mhurron 11y ago
> you don't deserve special benefits. Society feels differently, and Micorsoft here recognizes this and can use that to provide incentives to future hires and retain existing ones. Secondly, raising kids is not a hobby, that's why they shouldn't be conflated. And you can take your entitlement charge that you're about to level at me and shove it up your ass. I don't have kids, I won't have kids, I really kind of hate kids, but even I can see it's not a god damn hobby.
- aianus 11y ago
  It is, in fact, a hobby; a selfish, narcissistic, and extremely expensive one.
  - ux-app 11y ago
    I think you might be projecting a bit.
ux-app 11y ago
> "It's ridiculous the sense of entitlement parents have." It's not a sense of entitlement that drives these kinds of changes. It's a recognition that child rearing is an important societal activity, and that in a modern, privileged, civilized society we should not have workplace policies in place that are hostile toward parents. Ageing populations are a real and present threat to many first world countries. In most western countries this is recognized at the governmental level with leave schemes, childcare subsidies etc. This is also in response to changes in work patterns. In the 50s it was very uncommon for both mother and father to be working. Now the opposite is the case. Shouldn't society then move to restore the balance in a sense by applying what you call "special benefits" to parents?
- aianus 11y ago
  The entitlement was evident in his footnote "please do not equate having a baby to pursuing a hobby." I should have been more specific that parents should not be entitled to special benefits at work. It would make sense for a government program to subsidize child rearing to some extent.