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Hi dang, Sorry about that. I'm curious, though, if you see a lot of user flags on the initial submissions I made for this article. I suspect that there are use

by cryptoz 11y ago

Hi dang, Sorry about that. I'm curious, though, if you see a lot of user flags on the initial submissions I made for this article. I suspect that there are users here who will flag every story that discusses climate change, thus preventing HN users from ever discussing the topic. The initial submissions got 10+ points in less than 30 minutes, far more than other stories on the front page - but they never made it to even page 3 of HN. I'm wondering why. Sorry again, and thanks. Edit: Source article is http://rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-point-of-no-return-climate-change-nightmares-are-already-here-20150805 http://rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-point-of-no-return...

dang 11y ago
No, those posts weren't affected by flags at all. There is a penalty on rollingstone.com by default, though, as is the case with many sites that produce occasional substantive articles along with a lot of fluff. We review most of those and take the penalty off on the substantive ones.
- cryptoz 11y ago
  Oh, okay. Thank you for the information on that, I was wondering why such a popular story was being so heavily penalised. Would you consider unpenalizing this submission with the correct link? The article is very high quality and well worth a discussion on HN. Thanks.
  - dang 11y ago
    I've done so, but with misgivings. First, HN hasn't been capable of having much substantive discussion about this in the past. Second, Hansen's announcement was discussed recently at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9927099 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9927099. Third, this article is written in an alarmist style. You can defend that by arguing that it's an alarming situation, but it sets the discussion up to be even more polarized. However, let's see what happens.
    - cryptoz 11y ago
      Thanks, I appreciate your flexibility and care on this issue. I'm aware HN has trouble discussing this topic, but I think that's one reason we very much need to keep talking about it. The HN community has some of the best skills needed to help solve our climate problems, and more discussion of the urgency and scale is (hopefully) useful. Thanks again
tedunangst 11y ago
> I suspect that there are users here who will flag every story that discusses climate change, Stipulating that's true, I'm not sure "I will overwhelm them with resubmissions" is the best response.
- cryptoz 11y ago
  We -will- discuss climate change here. I will make that a life goal if I have to. However, I also realize my errors today, and I won't repeat them. HN is going to learn how to talk about this issue, one way or another.
  - tptacek 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influen...
  - wglb 11y ago
    We -will- discuss climate change here. This is unlikely to be an effective approach to HN readers. Keep in mind that sometimes articles are flagged due to toxic comment threads that result, independently of the native content of the article.

by cryptoz 11y ago

dang 11y ago

No, those posts weren't affected by flags at all. There is a penalty on rollingstone.com by default, though, as is the case with many sites that produce occasional substantive articles along with a lot of fluff. We review most of those and take the penalty off on the substantive ones.

cryptoz 11y ago
Oh, okay. Thank you for the information on that, I was wondering why such a popular story was being so heavily penalised. Would you consider unpenalizing this submission with the correct link? The article is very high quality and well worth a discussion on HN. Thanks.
- dang 11y ago
  I've done so, but with misgivings. First, HN hasn't been capable of having much substantive discussion about this in the past. Second, Hansen's announcement was discussed recently at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9927099 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9927099. Third, this article is written in an alarmist style. You can defend that by arguing that it's an alarming situation, but it sets the discussion up to be even more polarized. However, let's see what happens.
  - cryptoz 11y ago
    Thanks, I appreciate your flexibility and care on this issue. I'm aware HN has trouble discussing this topic, but I think that's one reason we very much need to keep talking about it. The HN community has some of the best skills needed to help solve our climate problems, and more discussion of the urgency and scale is (hopefully) useful. Thanks again

tedunangst 11y ago

> I suspect that there are users here who will flag every story that discusses climate change, Stipulating that's true, I'm not sure "I will overwhelm them with resubmissions" is the best response.

cryptoz 11y ago
We -will- discuss climate change here. I will make that a life goal if I have to. However, I also realize my errors today, and I won't repeat them. HN is going to learn how to talk about this issue, one way or another.
- tptacek 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influen...
- wglb 11y ago
  We -will- discuss climate change here. This is unlikely to be an effective approach to HN readers. Keep in mind that sometimes articles are flagged due to toxic comment threads that result, independently of the native content of the article.