I don't think AMD is really dumb enough to actually want to catch up on the desktop. It seems like they are doing a certain amount of marketing lip service to d

I don't think AMD is really dumb enough to actually want to catch up on the desktop. It seems like they are doing a certain amount of marketing lip service to desktop hardware, but their really interesting products are APUs/GPUs for ML and HPC, and their real ambitions are there and for parts of the server market that Intel isn't pursuing as aggressively. Last I heard Zen is supposed to release as a server part in 2016, which I take to mean that it would be a miracle if I could buy a mainstream desktop part in two years (http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37713-amd-has-finfet-test-chips http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37713-amd-has-finfet-t...). Anyway, for anyone who doesn't already own a fab and have the market cap of BP, trying to compete with Intel on desktop parts is like starting a cattle ranch in your back yard to try to undercut Cargill Meat Solutions at selling leather to buggy whip manufacturers.