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It's really frustrating for me just how many bugs Apple software has. Let's look at a simple one - the icons on iOS safari for frequently visited websites. Th

It's really frustrating for me just how many bugs Apple software has. Let's look at a simple one - the icons on iOS safari for frequently visited websites. They "randomly" assign the wrong favicon e.g. I click the Facebook icon and it loads Hacker News. This has been present since iOS 8. Yesterday I pulled down the notification screen and it occupies only 50% of my screen. Cue another reboot of the iPhone. My iMac. Upgrading to Yosemite was the worst mistake ever. Now I have to use a cheap mouse and keyboard, as Apple's Bluetooth versions no longer wake the sleeping iMac. I have tried every solution on the Internet to this and none fix it. The beachball is becoming ever more prominent on the iMac too. Very disappointing for a machine which isn't 3 years old. My Macbook Air. It's better, but the power button no longer does anything when I press it. Apple products have a huge premium and the quality of the software is not matching the price tag. I am not surprised to see the stock falling; usually when IBM buy your products en masse you know something is wrong :) I don't know what the culture at Apple is. But I don't think their software developers can be anything other than the "norm" - and I am extremely worried about their automated testing culture. Maybe someone can comment. EDIT: I just remembered my Apple Cr*p folder home to Podcasts, Tips, Apple Watch, Calendar, Health, Apple Store, Apple Maps, Videos, Reminders and Newstand. Podcasts actually cost me money when it started downloaded podcasts over 3G despite me saying wifi only. I think that bug got fixed, but I'll never trust it again. I also forgot about the white elephant that is the Apple Time capsule I purchased. It's slow over wifi from the iMac and was one of the causes of my beachball, but the main issue was it kept saying it couldn't back up because the disk was locked. For a company like Apple who should supposedly simplify backup, the product is a shambles. Maybe this is better now, but I won't be upgrading.

ino 11y ago
> My Macbook Air. It's better, but the power button no longer does anything when I press it. Press and hold. It's this way to prevent accidental logouts which were frequent in my case when it was just a press.
- rbritton 11y ago
  Thanks. That's something that would have been really helpful to see a note on. It changed the behavior of a button that's been consistent for as long as I can remember.
  - afandian 11y ago
    It happened when the moved the button onto the keyboard. People kept hitting it by mistake and sleeping their machines.
- rzzzt 11y ago
  Depending on the duration of the key press, you can send the machine to sleep, get the traditional shut down window, or invoke the forced power-off incantation, according to this support article [1]. The short tap-for-sleep method doesn't seem to work on the machine I'm using, either. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150
jayd16 11y ago
Is that favicon thing a webkit issue? I swear I've seen that on chrome.
gooseus 11y ago
Freaking Apple BS folder, where every time I go to Update All of my apps I see them taking up more and more space that I can't get back. Must I really update all my apps only one at a time to ensure I don't lose GBs of storage to apps I have never asked for, never intend on using and can't physically delete? I also 2nd the comment about how poorly designed Finder is. I could iterate my personal gripes about how updating my 4S to iOS 8 made it barely usable or updating to Yosemite on my aging Air is approaching that, but we're all just venting into a void. Apple has become too big and too profitable to care, much like every other indomitable tech company with indispensable services. Someone needs to "disrupt" consumer advocacy or something like that.
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dunham 11y ago
The frequent Yosemite beachballs seem to only occur on systems with old-school hard drives. It's nowhere near as bad on SSD systems. It's crazy frustrating on my iMac, but my macbook pro is fine. So I suspect the changes and additional daemons in Yosemite added a bunch of disk I/O, and the engineers never noticed because they're all on SSD systems.
swanson 11y ago
I think this is webkit thing - it happens in Chrome (on both desktop and mobile) for me pretty often.
plug 11y ago
"Very disappointing for a machine which isn't 3 years old". This really resonates with me, sitting at a similarly aged iMac that frequently displays bafflingly poor performance, displaying what I like to call the "psychedelic jelly-tot of death". Sort of off-topic, but another thing that really frustrates me with Apple products is when something goes wrong with the hardware. I have a 3+ year old Macbook Air. The 't' key - specifically the little contact button under the key - stopped working consistently. Very frustrating when you start to realise just how much 't' shows up in the English language. Anyway, I made some calls enquiring about how much a repair would cost: around €300. They just replace the entire aluminium top plate because it's impossible to replace a single contact button, and unfeasible to replace the whole keyboard array - this involves complete disassembly, and a bunch of other delicate steps, which look incredibly daunting. I know that this is probably the trade-off for having such a small form factor, but between this, a defective SSD, a locked-in battery and periodically replacing chargers at €80 a pop, I am distinctly less enthusiastic about purchasing Apple products in the future.
- ericabiz 11y ago
  The 2012 Macbook Air you are referring to does have a replaceable keyboard. I co-own a repair shop and we just did one. However, it is a daunting task. We charged $200 for the replacement ($30 for the part + $170 in labor) and it took our most experienced tech nearly 2 hours to complete. The problem is (for anyone who's never opened a MBA) that if you look between each key on the keyboard, Apple decided for some crazy reason to put a teeny tiny screw there. So between the Q and W is a screw, and between the W and E is a screw...you get the picture. This is a totally nutball design. It is a doable repair, but it takes forever, and be prepared for your hand/wrist to be quite sore after you're done. If you can find someone or have a friend who does phone repairs, get them to do it and pay them for their time. I say phone repairs because the people who do phone repairs are used to dealing with teeny tiny Apple screws for a living.
  - blackbeard 11y ago
    That sort of design scares me. I've got a circa 2010 lenovo X201 and a keyboard replacement on that is a 5 minute job max and costs $20 and it's all a small philips driver (I use a swiss army knife). I'm on my third keyboard.

ino 11y ago

> My Macbook Air. It's better, but the power button no longer does anything when I press it. Press and hold. It's this way to prevent accidental logouts which were frequent in my case when it was just a press.

rbritton 11y ago
Thanks. That's something that would have been really helpful to see a note on. It changed the behavior of a button that's been consistent for as long as I can remember.
- afandian 11y ago
  It happened when the moved the button onto the keyboard. People kept hitting it by mistake and sleeping their machines.
rzzzt 11y ago
Depending on the duration of the key press, you can send the machine to sleep, get the traditional shut down window, or invoke the forced power-off incantation, according to this support article [1]. The short tap-for-sleep method doesn't seem to work on the machine I'm using, either. [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150

jayd16 11y ago

Is that favicon thing a webkit issue? I swear I've seen that on chrome.

gooseus 11y ago

Freaking Apple BS folder, where every time I go to Update All of my apps I see them taking up more and more space that I can't get back. Must I really update all my apps only one at a time to ensure I don't lose GBs of storage to apps I have never asked for, never intend on using and can't physically delete? I also 2nd the comment about how poorly designed Finder is. I could iterate my personal gripes about how updating my 4S to iOS 8 made it barely usable or updating to Yosemite on my aging Air is approaching that, but we're all just venting into a void. Apple has become too big and too profitable to care, much like every other indomitable tech company with indispensable services. Someone needs to "disrupt" consumer advocacy or something like that.

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dunham 11y ago

The frequent Yosemite beachballs seem to only occur on systems with old-school hard drives. It's nowhere near as bad on SSD systems. It's crazy frustrating on my iMac, but my macbook pro is fine. So I suspect the changes and additional daemons in Yosemite added a bunch of disk I/O, and the engineers never noticed because they're all on SSD systems.

swanson 11y ago

I think this is webkit thing - it happens in Chrome (on both desktop and mobile) for me pretty often.

plug 11y ago

"Very disappointing for a machine which isn't 3 years old". This really resonates with me, sitting at a similarly aged iMac that frequently displays bafflingly poor performance, displaying what I like to call the "psychedelic jelly-tot of death". Sort of off-topic, but another thing that really frustrates me with Apple products is when something goes wrong with the hardware. I have a 3+ year old Macbook Air. The 't' key - specifically the little contact button under the key - stopped working consistently. Very frustrating when you start to realise just how much 't' shows up in the English language. Anyway, I made some calls enquiring about how much a repair would cost: around €300. They just replace the entire aluminium top plate because it's impossible to replace a single contact button, and unfeasible to replace the whole keyboard array - this involves complete disassembly, and a bunch of other delicate steps, which look incredibly daunting. I know that this is probably the trade-off for having such a small form factor, but between this, a defective SSD, a locked-in battery and periodically replacing chargers at €80 a pop, I am distinctly less enthusiastic about purchasing Apple products in the future.

ericabiz 11y ago
The 2012 Macbook Air you are referring to does have a replaceable keyboard. I co-own a repair shop and we just did one. However, it is a daunting task. We charged $200 for the replacement ($30 for the part + $170 in labor) and it took our most experienced tech nearly 2 hours to complete. The problem is (for anyone who's never opened a MBA) that if you look between each key on the keyboard, Apple decided for some crazy reason to put a teeny tiny screw there. So between the Q and W is a screw, and between the W and E is a screw...you get the picture. This is a totally nutball design. It is a doable repair, but it takes forever, and be prepared for your hand/wrist to be quite sore after you're done. If you can find someone or have a friend who does phone repairs, get them to do it and pay them for their time. I say phone repairs because the people who do phone repairs are used to dealing with teeny tiny Apple screws for a living.
- blackbeard 11y ago
  That sort of design scares me. I've got a circa 2010 lenovo X201 and a keyboard replacement on that is a 5 minute job max and costs $20 and it's all a small philips driver (I use a swiss army knife). I'm on my third keyboard.