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You're definitely right that many cities are crossed off due to bureaucracy, though I'm specifically curious at how Google is picking cities to look into in the

You're definitely right that many cities are crossed off due to bureaucracy, though I'm specifically curious at how Google is picking cities to look into in the first place. That's where I think density/population come into play.

yessql 11y ago
I think there is a sweet spot in high enough population density and low enough bureaucracy (or enough local gov cooperation).
- therobot24 11y ago
  maybe we should be looking at this in the opposite direction, if you want to live in a good sized city that has low bureaucracy government then look at where Google is looking to put fiber
  - rayiner 11y ago
    Eh. Atlanta is a relatively low bureaucracy city that's getting fiber. It's also a police state that puts black people in jail for failing to pay car registration fees on time.
    - therobot24 11y ago
      fair enough
pavs 11y ago
Google is deploying to cities where the admins are bending over backwards to accommodate google to come to their city.
eitally 11y ago
If you look at the Raleigh/Durham area, Google Fiber is coming here and it makes logical sense for a huge number of reasons. Here are a few: 1) they can deal independently with multiple, local bureaucracies, each of which is easier to deal with than a consolidated large city's. 2) there's a ton of high tech / biotech here already, and demand for fiber. 3) The population is highly educated and there are several very good universities (UNC, Duke, NCSU) and smaller schools (Shaw, Peace, Meredith, NCCU, ...) in the area. 4) With the exception of older parts of Raleigh & Durham, all of the cities are pretty well planned and have layouts that make running fiber pretty straightforward, and all of the municipalities agreed to accommodate all of Google's requirements. Coincidentally, we had 0 fiber ISPs a year ago and now we have 3 (plus TWC is updating all their "extreme" customers to 300mbps). AT&T has been laying fiber like crazy and Centurylink is here, too.

yessql 11y ago

I think there is a sweet spot in high enough population density and low enough bureaucracy (or enough local gov cooperation).

therobot24 11y ago
maybe we should be looking at this in the opposite direction, if you want to live in a good sized city that has low bureaucracy government then look at where Google is looking to put fiber
- rayiner 11y ago
  Eh. Atlanta is a relatively low bureaucracy city that's getting fiber. It's also a police state that puts black people in jail for failing to pay car registration fees on time.
  - therobot24 11y ago
    fair enough

pavs 11y ago

Google is deploying to cities where the admins are bending over backwards to accommodate google to come to their city.

eitally 11y ago

If you look at the Raleigh/Durham area, Google Fiber is coming here and it makes logical sense for a huge number of reasons. Here are a few: 1) they can deal independently with multiple, local bureaucracies, each of which is easier to deal with than a consolidated large city's. 2) there's a ton of high tech / biotech here already, and demand for fiber. 3) The population is highly educated and there are several very good universities (UNC, Duke, NCSU) and smaller schools (Shaw, Peace, Meredith, NCCU, ...) in the area. 4) With the exception of older parts of Raleigh & Durham, all of the cities are pretty well planned and have layouts that make running fiber pretty straightforward, and all of the municipalities agreed to accommodate all of Google's requirements. Coincidentally, we had 0 fiber ISPs a year ago and now we have 3 (plus TWC is updating all their "extreme" customers to 300mbps). AT&T has been laying fiber like crazy and Centurylink is here, too.