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> I'd throw away my uMatrix and Adblock. Well you should throw one or the other away. Why do you use both at the same time?

by dfc 11y ago

Kenji 11y ago
I use both in conjunction because AdBlock removes ads while simultaneously fixing the flow of the site, while uMatrix leaves gaps and holes in the site. But I need uMatrix to be safe from XSS (unfortunately, most websites include jQuery from a different domain, what a stupid practice). Also, uMatrix breaks a lot of sites (especially sites using content delivery networks on multiple domains) so if I really want to access the content, I open it in an incognito window and disable uMatrix temporarily on that site (it's tedious to figure out what exact request broke the site. I only do those manual exceptions for my most favourite sites). Like that, the site works but most of the tracking and the ads are still blocked ;) Yes, it is sad that the state of the internet has degraded so much that this is necessary.
- dfc 11y ago
  I ran adblock+noscript for many years for the same reason. Thats why I am suprised you would want to deal with two extensions when you could just use umatrix. What "flow" does adblock fix? Like I said, I have had a similar setup for probably a decade now. So no, I don't think that it is a sad state of affairs that adblock/noscript/umartix are necessary. Did the "state of sexual intercourse" need to degrade to a certain level in order for condoms to be necessary?
  - Kenji 11y ago
    Let me illustrate my problem with a little image of the youtube homepage (top image is with both activated, bottom is with only uMatrix): http://i.imgur.com/RQ7VM0z.png http://i.imgur.com/RQ7VM0z.png Did the "state of sexual intercourse" need to degrade to a certain level in order for condoms to be necessary? No, because the risks have always been around and thus predated condoms. Still sad and worthy of improving, if possible.
    - dfc 11y ago
      I dont have that issue: http://i.imgur.com/W05ZxpC.png http://i.imgur.com/W05ZxpC.png But I still use noscript with umatrix, so it might be a noscript surrogate "fixing my flow.". Do you have "hide placeholders" selected in umatrix? Risks have always been around.
      - Kenji 11y ago
        No, I don't want the "Collapse placeholder of blocked elements" uMatrix option activated because then, if a website embeds e.g. youtube videos or soundcloud songs I have no visual cue of their existence, whereas, if the option is disabled, I see it greyed out with a link that I can click to watch it in a separate window. I feel like our discussion is at this point a clash of personal preferences and would not like to continue. Have a nice day :)
jacquesm 11y ago
It's a bit like painting a wall. You need more strokes to cover the whole wall, neither uMatrix nor Adblock do exactly the same thing.

> I'd throw away my uMatrix and Adblock. Well you should throw one or the other away. Why do you use both at the same time?

by dfc 11y ago

> I'd throw away my uMatrix and Adblock. Well you should throw one or the other away. Why do you use both at the same time?

Kenji 11y ago

I use both in conjunction because AdBlock removes ads while simultaneously fixing the flow of the site, while uMatrix leaves gaps and holes in the site. But I need uMatrix to be safe from XSS (unfortunately, most websites include jQuery from a different domain, what a stupid practice). Also, uMatrix breaks a lot of sites (especially sites using content delivery networks on multiple domains) so if I really want to access the content, I open it in an incognito window and disable uMatrix temporarily on that site (it's tedious to figure out what exact request broke the site. I only do those manual exceptions for my most favourite sites). Like that, the site works but most of the tracking and the ads are still blocked ;) Yes, it is sad that the state of the internet has degraded so much that this is necessary.

dfc 11y ago
I ran adblock+noscript for many years for the same reason. Thats why I am suprised you would want to deal with two extensions when you could just use umatrix. What "flow" does adblock fix? Like I said, I have had a similar setup for probably a decade now. So no, I don't think that it is a sad state of affairs that adblock/noscript/umartix are necessary. Did the "state of sexual intercourse" need to degrade to a certain level in order for condoms to be necessary?
- Kenji 11y ago
  Let me illustrate my problem with a little image of the youtube homepage (top image is with both activated, bottom is with only uMatrix): http://i.imgur.com/RQ7VM0z.png http://i.imgur.com/RQ7VM0z.png Did the "state of sexual intercourse" need to degrade to a certain level in order for condoms to be necessary? No, because the risks have always been around and thus predated condoms. Still sad and worthy of improving, if possible.
  - dfc 11y ago
    I dont have that issue: http://i.imgur.com/W05ZxpC.png http://i.imgur.com/W05ZxpC.png But I still use noscript with umatrix, so it might be a noscript surrogate "fixing my flow.". Do you have "hide placeholders" selected in umatrix? Risks have always been around.
    - Kenji 11y ago
      No, I don't want the "Collapse placeholder of blocked elements" uMatrix option activated because then, if a website embeds e.g. youtube videos or soundcloud songs I have no visual cue of their existence, whereas, if the option is disabled, I see it greyed out with a link that I can click to watch it in a separate window. I feel like our discussion is at this point a clash of personal preferences and would not like to continue. Have a nice day :)

jacquesm 11y ago

It's a bit like painting a wall. You need more strokes to cover the whole wall, neither uMatrix nor Adblock do exactly the same thing.