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China is a somewhat unique example as they are operating at a scale that no other country has to deal with. So solutions that work at the 300 million people sca

China is a somewhat unique example as they are operating at a scale that no other country has to deal with. So solutions that work at the 300 million people scale, simply don't work at 2 billion people scale. While this doesn't justify China's actions, it does provide an explanation for them.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago
Meh, this is a weak argument. Not too long ago people were saying "Of course the small eastern european states need authoritarian communism! They aren't rich like the USA! They need a strongman to lead them and to control the weak economy or they'll fall into starvation. Ceausescu keeps the lights on and our bellies full!" Capitalism scales just fine. So does democracy, ask India. Lets stop giving authoritarians more excuses.
- debrangy 11y ago
  India may not be the best example, considering there have been several organizations that have rated it more corrupt than China. Furthermore, while they both started in similar economic positions, China has pretty much left India in the dust at the moment in many metrics.
  - drzaiusapelord 11y ago
    I'm not saying these are perfect solutions but they are doable. Also comparing India to China, economically, is a bit tough. China wasn't occupied by the British Empire for 100 plus years. The history of colonialism can't be dismissed overnight. Ironically, India's many communist parties and communist-influenced legislation is still hurting it, notable the law that companies larger than x size are more or less nationally controlled in a de facto sense - for example it is illegal to fire anyone, you actually need to ask the government to fire them which involves trials and years of work. Companies in India try to stay under that size, thus a lack of proper economic growth due to lack of scale. The new guy in charge is up for liberalization, so lets see how that works out.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago

Meh, this is a weak argument. Not too long ago people were saying "Of course the small eastern european states need authoritarian communism! They aren't rich like the USA! They need a strongman to lead them and to control the weak economy or they'll fall into starvation. Ceausescu keeps the lights on and our bellies full!" Capitalism scales just fine. So does democracy, ask India. Lets stop giving authoritarians more excuses.

debrangy 11y ago
India may not be the best example, considering there have been several organizations that have rated it more corrupt than China. Furthermore, while they both started in similar economic positions, China has pretty much left India in the dust at the moment in many metrics.
- drzaiusapelord 11y ago
  I'm not saying these are perfect solutions but they are doable. Also comparing India to China, economically, is a bit tough. China wasn't occupied by the British Empire for 100 plus years. The history of colonialism can't be dismissed overnight. Ironically, India's many communist parties and communist-influenced legislation is still hurting it, notable the law that companies larger than x size are more or less nationally controlled in a de facto sense - for example it is illegal to fire anyone, you actually need to ask the government to fire them which involves trials and years of work. Companies in India try to stay under that size, thus a lack of proper economic growth due to lack of scale. The new guy in charge is up for liberalization, so lets see how that works out.