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> There is no money in exploiting these bugs - Murder for hire. - Killing political opponents. - Another country could use it to kill our leaders. I'm lookin

> There is no money in exploiting these bugs - Murder for hire. - Killing political opponents. - Another country could use it to kill our leaders. I'm looking forward to self-driving cards but my only real fear is a bug being used to kill people in the manner I just described.

laumars 11y ago
You're replying to the wrong post. That should have been to my parent commenter.
- MichaelApproved 11y ago
  You're right. Thankfully, I had a quote to give some context to what I was trying to rebut. It'd be great if a mod could change the location of the reply.
JoeAltmaier 11y ago
Or this: http://www.xkcd.com/1559/ http://www.xkcd.com/1559/
rwmj 11y ago
On the bright side, these cars can now be used as an open platform for developing open source driverless car software. You can even use the stereo to run the control software. (I'm only being slightly flippant)
pavel_lishin 11y ago
I'm not afraid of being killed because someone hates me, I'm afraid of being killed because a 12 year old with a laptop may not have a fully developed moral sense of right and wrong.
- dublinben 11y ago
  I fully expect a new genre of prank videos to emerge. Self-driving cars with cameras make for perfect targets. Innocent people will be involuntary passengers for a Grand Theft Auto style rampage that is livestreamed for the world to see.
  - grkvlt 11y ago
    Really? Do you imagine the only thing stopping people from trying to kill random strangers is the fact they currently have to get up out of bed to do it? Because it can't be the fear of getting caught, since the perpetrators of any vehicular malware that kills people will be caught...
    - pavel_lishin 11y ago
      If the fear of getting caught prevented people from committing crimes, jails would be empty.
      - grkvlt 11y ago
        Exactly, so according to the people worried about killer malware, the only thing stopping our population of latent murdering sociopaths is the fact that it's currently too much physical effort to go and sabotage some sandom vehicle? As I said, this seems unlikely to me...
- MichaelApproved 11y ago
  I'm not afraid of being killed either. I'm mostly worried about politicians and powers that be killing others to stay in power. It's much easier to keep your hands clean as a government hacker than as a government hit-man. Even if the hardware is secure against a script kiddie hacker, it'll never be secure against a government backdoor. Imagine the power that someone like Nixon would have as president today. It's scary. "When the president does something, that means that it is not illegal" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c

laumars 11y ago

You're replying to the wrong post. That should have been to my parent commenter.

MichaelApproved 11y ago
You're right. Thankfully, I had a quote to give some context to what I was trying to rebut. It'd be great if a mod could change the location of the reply.

JoeAltmaier 11y ago

Or this: http://www.xkcd.com/1559/ http://www.xkcd.com/1559/

rwmj 11y ago

On the bright side, these cars can now be used as an open platform for developing open source driverless car software. You can even use the stereo to run the control software. (I'm only being slightly flippant)

pavel_lishin 11y ago

I'm not afraid of being killed because someone hates me, I'm afraid of being killed because a 12 year old with a laptop may not have a fully developed moral sense of right and wrong.

dublinben 11y ago
I fully expect a new genre of prank videos to emerge. Self-driving cars with cameras make for perfect targets. Innocent people will be involuntary passengers for a Grand Theft Auto style rampage that is livestreamed for the world to see.
- grkvlt 11y ago
  Really? Do you imagine the only thing stopping people from trying to kill random strangers is the fact they currently have to get up out of bed to do it? Because it can't be the fear of getting caught, since the perpetrators of any vehicular malware that kills people will be caught...
  - pavel_lishin 11y ago
    If the fear of getting caught prevented people from committing crimes, jails would be empty.
    - grkvlt 11y ago
      Exactly, so according to the people worried about killer malware, the only thing stopping our population of latent murdering sociopaths is the fact that it's currently too much physical effort to go and sabotage some sandom vehicle? As I said, this seems unlikely to me...
MichaelApproved 11y ago
I'm not afraid of being killed either. I'm mostly worried about politicians and powers that be killing others to stay in power. It's much easier to keep your hands clean as a government hacker than as a government hit-man. Even if the hardware is secure against a script kiddie hacker, it'll never be secure against a government backdoor. Imagine the power that someone like Nixon would have as president today. It's scary. "When the president does something, that means that it is not illegal" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c