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A bit of a nitpick, but no stealth bomber has ever been shot down. That was a stealth fighter.

riffer 17y ago
Agreed, but philosophically, is it still a stealth fighter if the guy the flying it is stupid enough to effectively turn off some of the technology?
rdtsc 17y ago
OK, so they shot a smaller, faster moving target. The original point still stands. It was an F-117. Yes, most "F" aircraft are air-to-air fighter aircraft. However F-117 is mostly used to attack ground targets, so it's "F" should be more like an "A" (If you want to nitpick that is ;-) )
- shpxnvz 17y ago
  Actually, they are both subsonic aircraft and have a very similar top speed. The F117, however, has a larger radar cross signature, which makes it appear as a larger aircraft than the B2 in a radar return.
  - skorgu 17y ago
    Closest thing I can find to a cite is [1] which indicates they have similar sized returns, about the size of a hummingbird (!). [1] http://www.answers.com/topic/stealth-technology http://www.answers.com/topic/stealth-technology
    - shpxnvz 17y ago
      It's been a decade since I read much about it, but this site states that the F-117 has a radar cross section of 30 square centimeters while the B-2 has an RCS of 14 square centimeters. http://www.deagel.com/Long-Range-Attack-Aircraft/B-2A-Spirit_a000551001.aspx http://www.deagel.com/Long-Range-Attack-Aircraft/B-2A-Spirit... http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/F-117A-Nighthawk_a000538001.aspx http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/F-117A-Nig...
- stcredzero 17y ago
  The F designation was used to get more highly qualified pilots. (Lots of pilots would rather fly an "F" than an "A")
  - shpxnvz 17y ago
    Though no-one knows for sure, it's also been rumored that the fighter designation was done as a security measure to hide the true purpose of the aircraft, or that the F-117 designation existed in early planning documents and was simply never changed once the aircraft became a reality. It's also not the first attack aircraft to carry a fighter designation; the F-111 long-range attack aircraft also carried that designation (though in that case it was because the aircraft was originally meant, in part, to fill an Naval air-defense fighter role).
pcestrada 17y ago
No need to shoot down a stealth bomber; they fall out of the sky on their own. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q According to Wikipedia, that is how you turn $737M into smoke.

Agreed, but philosophically, is it still a stealth fighter if the guy the flying it is stupid enough to effectively turn off some of the technology?

rdtsc 17y ago

OK, so they shot a smaller, faster moving target. The original point still stands. It was an F-117. Yes, most "F" aircraft are air-to-air fighter aircraft. However F-117 is mostly used to attack ground targets, so it's "F" should be more like an "A" (If you want to nitpick that is ;-) )

shpxnvz 17y ago
Actually, they are both subsonic aircraft and have a very similar top speed. The F117, however, has a larger radar cross signature, which makes it appear as a larger aircraft than the B2 in a radar return.
- skorgu 17y ago
  Closest thing I can find to a cite is [1] which indicates they have similar sized returns, about the size of a hummingbird (!). [1] http://www.answers.com/topic/stealth-technology http://www.answers.com/topic/stealth-technology
  - shpxnvz 17y ago
    It's been a decade since I read much about it, but this site states that the F-117 has a radar cross section of 30 square centimeters while the B-2 has an RCS of 14 square centimeters. http://www.deagel.com/Long-Range-Attack-Aircraft/B-2A-Spirit_a000551001.aspx http://www.deagel.com/Long-Range-Attack-Aircraft/B-2A-Spirit... http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/F-117A-Nighthawk_a000538001.aspx http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/F-117A-Nig...
stcredzero 17y ago
The F designation was used to get more highly qualified pilots. (Lots of pilots would rather fly an "F" than an "A")
- shpxnvz 17y ago
  Though no-one knows for sure, it's also been rumored that the fighter designation was done as a security measure to hide the true purpose of the aircraft, or that the F-117 designation existed in early planning documents and was simply never changed once the aircraft became a reality. It's also not the first attack aircraft to carry a fighter designation; the F-111 long-range attack aircraft also carried that designation (though in that case it was because the aircraft was originally meant, in part, to fill an Naval air-defense fighter role).

pcestrada 17y ago

No need to shoot down a stealth bomber; they fall out of the sky on their own. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCp5h1gK2Q According to Wikipedia, that is how you turn $737M into smoke.