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France voted against the european constitution (referendum), only to see it instated through Lisbonne treaty, this time without referendum.. So much for EU demo

• antientropic 11y ago
  France is still a democracy, and the democratically elected French parliament had the right to vote against the Lisbon treaty. Which they didn't.
  • fooballs 11y ago
    For all we know they were bribed to make it go through. There is absolutely no accountability or democracy in the EU.
    • ptaipale 11y ago
      It is all right to point out that there are problems in accountability or democracy in the EU, but that "absolutely no" is so manifestly untrue that it takes away credibility from anything you say.
• ptaipale 11y ago
  The constitution treaty (TCE) was rejected, and the Lisbon treaty is not the same. Lisbon treaty did change the previous treaties of Rome and Maastricht, but again, saying "only to see it [TCE] instated through Lisbonne treaty" is disingenious. The Lisbon treaty does not cover the same things as the TCE did, only a subset of which there was consensus.
• rorykoehler 11y ago
  In Ireland we voted on Lisbon until we got the right result. Makes a mockery of democracy.