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> "a lottery for the working poor and lower middle class who desire to live among the upper class and rich" This isn't even remotely true in the typical case.
by potatolicious 11y ago
> "a lottery for the working poor and lower middle class who desire to live among the upper class and rich"
This isn't even remotely true in the typical case. It is a lottery, to be a certain, but most NYC public housing is not in rich neighborhoods.
Living on the ass end of Bushwick, East Harlem, Crown Heights, and Coney Island is not opulent, nor has it ever been. All of these neighborhoods are still poor, and while some are gentrifying none of them can be identified in any way as upper class, or even upper-middle class.
There are notable exceptions - the projects on the Lower East Side for example were built when the neighborhood was one of the poorest in Manhattan, but in the past ten years has transformed into a playground for the wealthy with shiny new glass skyscrapers going up every which way.
The public housing system in NYC was neither intended as, nor does it generally have the effect of, mixing the poor with the rich. All of the complexes were built on what was at the time land that nobody ever expected would be worth much, the mixing of economic strata was not a major concern - in fact the design of the public housing system was in large part driven by a desire to segregate the poor.
- santaclaus 11y ago> Living on the ass end of Bushwick, East Harlem, Crown Heights, and Coney Island is not opulent, nor has it ever been. All of these neighborhoods are still poor, and while some are gentrifying none of them can be identified in any way as upper class, or even upper-middle class. Maybe 10 years ago, but the Jefferson L stop is mega upper class nice at this point. Indoor climbing gyms next to circus themed bars next to coffee shops with zen gardens, all within quick walks to public housing. Hell, I don't make enough money to get a lease off the Franklin Av stop in Crown Heights, at this point...