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The same "facts" could have been stated in a very different way. For example, I could tell the story like this: "An employee complained about sexual harassment

The same "facts" could have been stated in a very different way. For example, I could tell the story like this: "An employee complained about sexual harassment at Github. The confirmation of some of her accusations by an independent investigator led the CEO to step down." Sounds different, doesn't it?

toomuchtodo 11y ago
The only references to sexual harrasment I found in OPs post was: > She accused the company of sexism and sexual harassment (independent investigator found none, and other female Github engineers said there was nothing wrong) > JAH also complained of terrible sexual harassment - that is, men looking at women spinning hula hoops. Women did not complain, but JAH got offended on their behalf anyway. Are these not facts? Were "men looking at women spinning hula hoops" and this other individual brought it to someone's attention as sexual harassment?
- ta140604 11y ago
  > The article quotes JAH's email as saying, "Two women, one of whom I work with and adore, > and a friend of hers were hula hooping to some music. I didn’t have a problem with this. > What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the > hoopers and gawking at them. It looked like something out of a strip club. When I > brought this up to male coworkers, they didn’t see a problem with it. But for me it felt > unsafe and to be honest, really embarrassing. That was the moment I decided to finally > leave GitHub." From the HN discussion when this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 Article in question: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes-sexism-and-intimidation-behind-her-github-exit/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes...
tedunangst 11y ago
Sounds wrong. Your summary implies the CEO stepped down due to sexual harassment.
j-pb 11y ago
Yeah and also twists the truth beyond recognition. The reason he stepped down was not due to sexual harassment complaints, but to his wife misusing resources of the company.

toomuchtodo 11y ago

The only references to sexual harrasment I found in OPs post was: > She accused the company of sexism and sexual harassment (independent investigator found none, and other female Github engineers said there was nothing wrong) > JAH also complained of terrible sexual harassment - that is, men looking at women spinning hula hoops. Women did not complain, but JAH got offended on their behalf anyway. Are these not facts? Were "men looking at women spinning hula hoops" and this other individual brought it to someone's attention as sexual harassment?

ta140604 11y ago
> The article quotes JAH's email as saying, "Two women, one of whom I work with and adore, > and a friend of hers were hula hooping to some music. I didn’t have a problem with this. > What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the > hoopers and gawking at them. It looked like something out of a strip club. When I > brought this up to male coworkers, they didn’t see a problem with it. But for me it felt > unsafe and to be honest, really embarrassing. That was the moment I decided to finally > leave GitHub." From the HN discussion when this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 Article in question: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes-sexism-and-intimidation-behind-her-github-exit/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes...

tedunangst 11y ago

Sounds wrong. Your summary implies the CEO stepped down due to sexual harassment.

j-pb 11y ago

Yeah and also twists the truth beyond recognition. The reason he stepped down was not due to sexual harassment complaints, but to his wife misusing resources of the company.