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There have been a bunch, actually. First one I can recall was the meritocracy scandal, where they tried to put a rug promoting meritocracy, and their in-house
by ta140604 11y ago
There have been a bunch, actually.
First one I can recall was the meritocracy scandal, where they tried to put a rug promoting meritocracy, and their in-house feminist Julie-Ann Horvath (nudged by her friends) complained in the general sense of "meritocracy is bad since it's racist and sexist". The caved in and removed the rug.
Said Julie-Ann Horvath later got in a fight with a (CEO&founder)'s wife, left the company and made another huge scandal. She accused the company of sexism and sexual harassment (independent investigator found none, and other female Github engineers said there was nothing wrong), accused a co-worker of systematically removing her code from repos since, I quote, "I wouldn't let him fuck me" (independent investigator found that he was actually fixing her errors), and that CEO's wife overstepped her boundaries and used company resources for her own projects [1] (independent investigator found that to be true, and CEO stepped down).
JAH also complained of terrible sexual harassment - that is, men looking at women spinning hula hoops. Women did not complain, but JAH got offended on their behalf anyway.
In the end, she left with a loud door slam, smeared a bunch of Github people, and in general had a huge meltdown on Twitter, as you do.
Then, as mentioned, there was a bunch of scandals where people had their repos removed (like C+=, a language satirizing the more, uh, out-there ideas expressed by the feminists; or a few repos related to GamerGate).
The latest in a series was a repo threatened with removal (or removed?) for using the word 'retarded'.
Then they added a CoC endorsing anti-white racism and anti-male sexism: "Github's new Code of Conduct says "Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort." and will not act on "reverse" racism, sexism, etc." [2]
Well, at least we have BitBucket, GitLab et al.
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[1] That's one empowered woman! What's not to like here? - TA
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3fpnuw/githubs_new_code_of_conduct_says_our_open_source/ https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3fpnuw/githubs_...
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago>that CEO's wife overstepped her boundaries and used company resources for her own projects [1] (independent investigator found that to be true, and CEO stepped down). This is particularly fun to note, because it shows that these investigators were not being easy/taking the side of the CEO. In short, it gives strong evidence they really were independent investigators.
- jordigh 11y agoSigh... there is so much wrong with what you've posted here, but I don't want to get into a screaming match with you about it. I just wish you didn't consider enemies the women who are trying to make things better for women, and that you would not consider the majority opinion of Reddit to be correct. I wonder how big this cultural divide really is, or if it just seems this big online. In my usual workplaces, nobody would be as systematically angry as you seem to be about a woman and a company asking other people to be nice.
- striking 11y agoIt doesn't seem to me that the user you're replying to is "systematically angry." Furthermore, the independent contractors were truly independent, and the Twitter meltdown and smearing were real. Those are real, harmful actions which should not be ignored. Furthermore, people are attempting to hold on to their ability to speak freely, to not have to monitor their own speech. There is no way to stop other people from being offended. No matter what you do, it will be offensive to someone. So should that person have the right to police you and to take down something that's yours? And what if you disagree with that person?
- zajd 11y agoNo, I can assure you "then they added a CoC endorsing anti-white racism and anti-male sexism" is a phrase that betrays his political bent.
- okasaki 11y agoWhich is? Also, why are you assuming they are a man?
- zajd 11y agoBahahaha I love comments like this. Honestly I assumed it because his comments just read like a bitter MRA. But if you want, you can click his profile and confirm it for yourself like I did. "Why do you assume a member who spouts KKK rhetoric is a white person?!?" -okasaki
- nosefrog 11y agoI'm sorry, but anti-white racism and anti-male sexism aren't real things. Sexism is clearly a thing, as shown by your very sexist comment. Stop making HN an unsafe place for women.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoCan you point out where ta140604 was "making HN an unsafe place for women"? All I saw were facts being stated, not opinions.
- nosefrog 11y agoIf you can't see the blatant sexism and disrespect for women in their comment, then there's no way I can help you. I'm not a miracle worker.
- jakobegger 11y agoThe same "facts" could have been stated in a very different way. For example, I could tell the story like this: "An employee complained about sexual harassment at Github. The confirmation of some of her accusations by an independent investigator led the CEO to step down." Sounds different, doesn't it?
- toomuchtodo 11y agoThe only references to sexual harrasment I found in OPs post was: > She accused the company of sexism and sexual harassment (independent investigator found none, and other female Github engineers said there was nothing wrong) > JAH also complained of terrible sexual harassment - that is, men looking at women spinning hula hoops. Women did not complain, but JAH got offended on their behalf anyway. Are these not facts? Were "men looking at women spinning hula hoops" and this other individual brought it to someone's attention as sexual harassment?
- ta140604 11y ago> The article quotes JAH's email as saying, "Two women, one of whom I work with and adore, > and a friend of hers were hula hooping to some music. I didn’t have a problem with this. > What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the > hoopers and gawking at them. It looked like something out of a strip club. When I > brought this up to male coworkers, they didn’t see a problem with it. But for me it felt > unsafe and to be honest, really embarrassing. That was the moment I decided to finally > leave GitHub." From the HN discussion when this happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7408492 Article in question: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes-sexism-and-intimidation-behind-her-github-exit/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes...
- WorldWideWayne 11y agoThis list is weak. There really isn't anything there. None of these were actually major fiascos and most of them have nothing to do with hosting code. I'm actually glad that they removed the satirical language repo and the one that used the word `retarded` and I don't believe that anybody actually endorses anti-white racism or anti-male sexism. You should feel bad for spreading that around.
- gbersac 11y agoConsidering the incredible amount of repository hosted by github, I consider this to be minor problems.