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Many of these movie studios sell their own movies through the Google Play store. Maybe as a first step, they could stop supporting the company that they hate so

Many of these movie studios sell their own movies through the Google Play store. Maybe as a first step, they could stop supporting the company that they hate so much?

white-flame 11y ago
Or the other way around, Google could cut them off or penalize them in their app store in retaliation, citing them as bad customers.
- nickpsecurity 11y ago
  Penalize them in search results too. Wonder what chunk of Google's ad revenue comes from movies. Might be small enough to loose for a short time. Do it before a blockbuster release. Unlikely to happen.
  - JoshTriplett 11y ago
    > Wonder what chunk of Google's ad revenue comes from movies. The more interesting question is what chunk of movie revenue comes from Google.
    - nickpsecurity 11y ago
      I think they're both very interesting in this context. ;)
  - mc32 11y ago
    Wouldn't your suggestion as well as parent suggestion border on monopolistic abuse? Wouldn't this be akin to MS telling Dell it's going to yank windows licensing in retaliation for selling red hat.
    - white-flame 11y ago
      As the parent, yeah pretty much. :-) It's not necessarily a proper response, but one in line with the thread's OP. I'd also argue that it's not technically monopolistic, but would certainly have negative consequences to the ??AA "partners" as well as chilling effects on others. But if Google wanted to take a nuclear approach, that'd certainly be one tack.
    - nickpsecurity 11y ago
      Oh there's a ton of legal risk all around. I'd suggest they have their lawyers and many available brains to consider how best use their position as leverage. Personally, I'd be looking into ways to use the leaked documents against Hood and preferably in a way that sets a precedent that's pro-Google. Not just griping but a full on attack on his career or image. It's what he was about to do to them after all.
- RexRollman 11y ago
  What they should do is require all DCMA notices to be submitted via a webform that has to pass a CAPTCHA. As far as I know, there is nothing that requires Google to accept automated DCMA notices from the MPAA.
JoshTriplett 11y ago
Google's customers want those movies, and likely wouldn't appreciate Google cutting them off to make a point. And when attorneys general are involved, it's hardly a good time to start resorting to exactly the sort of tactics that would get them accused of abusing a monopoly. At least, not in the one country (the US) that actually has relevant jurisdiction over them. Google needs to be completely above reproach here. (Notice that I'm not saying it'd be wrong to do so.) Now, what Google could do without (additional) reprisal would be to have a front-page link to a page raising awareness of this issue. Run their own ads on YouTube and other Google sites. Spell it out in terms everyone can understand, with direct quotes from the most incriminating of documents about the smear campaign. Provide people with an easy way to complain to their congresscritters. See how fast the issue disappears and a new case pops up against the originators of the smear campaign.
- McElroy 11y ago
  Parent commenter was saying that if the MPAA hate Google, MPAA-members shouldn't be using Google, not that Google should cut off MPAA/MPAA-members.
  - JoshTriplett 11y ago
    Ah, that makes more sense. The wonders of pronouns.

Many of these movie studios sell their own movies through the Google Play store. Maybe as a first step, they could stop supporting the company that they hate so much?

white-flame 11y ago

Or the other way around, Google could cut them off or penalize them in their app store in retaliation, citing them as bad customers.

nickpsecurity 11y ago
Penalize them in search results too. Wonder what chunk of Google's ad revenue comes from movies. Might be small enough to loose for a short time. Do it before a blockbuster release. Unlikely to happen.
- JoshTriplett 11y ago
  > Wonder what chunk of Google's ad revenue comes from movies. The more interesting question is what chunk of movie revenue comes from Google.
  - nickpsecurity 11y ago
    I think they're both very interesting in this context. ;)
- mc32 11y ago
  Wouldn't your suggestion as well as parent suggestion border on monopolistic abuse? Wouldn't this be akin to MS telling Dell it's going to yank windows licensing in retaliation for selling red hat.
  - white-flame 11y ago
    As the parent, yeah pretty much. :-) It's not necessarily a proper response, but one in line with the thread's OP. I'd also argue that it's not technically monopolistic, but would certainly have negative consequences to the ??AA "partners" as well as chilling effects on others. But if Google wanted to take a nuclear approach, that'd certainly be one tack.
  - nickpsecurity 11y ago
    Oh there's a ton of legal risk all around. I'd suggest they have their lawyers and many available brains to consider how best use their position as leverage. Personally, I'd be looking into ways to use the leaked documents against Hood and preferably in a way that sets a precedent that's pro-Google. Not just griping but a full on attack on his career or image. It's what he was about to do to them after all.
RexRollman 11y ago
What they should do is require all DCMA notices to be submitted via a webform that has to pass a CAPTCHA. As far as I know, there is nothing that requires Google to accept automated DCMA notices from the MPAA.

JoshTriplett 11y ago

Google's customers want those movies, and likely wouldn't appreciate Google cutting them off to make a point. And when attorneys general are involved, it's hardly a good time to start resorting to exactly the sort of tactics that would get them accused of abusing a monopoly. At least, not in the one country (the US) that actually has relevant jurisdiction over them. Google needs to be completely above reproach here. (Notice that I'm not saying it'd be wrong to do so.) Now, what Google could do without (additional) reprisal would be to have a front-page link to a page raising awareness of this issue. Run their own ads on YouTube and other Google sites. Spell it out in terms everyone can understand, with direct quotes from the most incriminating of documents about the smear campaign. Provide people with an easy way to complain to their congresscritters. See how fast the issue disappears and a new case pops up against the originators of the smear campaign.

McElroy 11y ago
Parent commenter was saying that if the MPAA hate Google, MPAA-members shouldn't be using Google, not that Google should cut off MPAA/MPAA-members.
- JoshTriplett 11y ago
  Ah, that makes more sense. The wonders of pronouns.